Discussion in 'LCD & LED LCD TVs Forum' started by shoestring25, Sep 7, 2007.
for me will disregard the sharp because of build quality issues
Sony will probably be the best but not enough to stump up the extra £500+ you will probably have to pay extra compared to the other makes
i like Phillips but i hate ambilight so would turn it off all the time puts me off paying the money for something that i wont use
so for me its the samsung or the Toshiba
For me its a two horse race between the Samsung and the Sony. However if the Sony hits the shelves in October whats the point in paying an extra £500 and waiting an additional 6 weeks for no real performance benefit?
If however upcoming reviews state that the Bravia engine gives the Sony an edge in SD performance that would change things.
Imagine what I vote.....Of course 46X3000!!!!!!
I think it is too early to call best of those; we need reviews not guessing with polls. For me it is tosh or sammy if decide on lcd, pana pz70 if i decide to buy plasma.
its not calling the best its just based on opinion what one would you want at the moment?
Bang on my opinion too! Except out goes Samsung because of the width....
not going for the sony ( i would if i had the money )
not going for the toshiba (no 1080p over VGA, bummers)
not going for the sharp (never liked 'em)
its the F86 or the 37" 9732. Just not sure if £300 extra on the philips is going to be worth it over the F86 samsung which is 3" bigger. will wait for substatial reviews for both to come out.
What is so good about VGA btw? I'm heading for HDMI when I get my TV... and have no idea about why you should chose it or component or VGA....
If only quallity matters.... then Philips
I saw Sony , Sammy , Toshiba ... from all of them Philips has the best SD picture which is in this days still very important . HD stuff looks almost the same on all FULL HD models.
Sony - grainy picture,too much vivid colours .
Sammy - to soft picture
Philips - in overall picture and colours just fine
these is offcourse for old models and SD programs!
MAybe with new models something will change ( this new sony engine especially for SD ??) i don't think so but you never know.. we'll have to wait till 15.09.2007 when PHilips AUREA comes out!!
so so far people think the most of the new samsungs
Except that the LE42X20E is not 100hz....so the poll is weighted a bit unfairly against the Sharps.
I wouldn't mind betting in advance that the black levels and SD quality of the Sharp XL2E will equal that of the Sony (ahead of the others) and compare if not beat the Sammy and the Tosh on price (Phillips rules itself out naturally due to the Ambilight). I am expecially looking forward to seeing a very flat 9.5cm screen on my wall
IF (yes it's a big IF), the banding issues are definitely resolved by release of the XL2E, who could disagree....
sorry my mistake i should have put the LC-42XL2E thats the 100hz model.
the reason i wont buy a sharp is becuase no matter how many times sharp say the banding issues are sorted they are just not the still produce and send out banded sets. also many peple including me had sets with features that didnt work straight out of the box. and another thing i have two of my friends who brought charp LCDs and one stopped working after a month another after 2 months . will never touch one again price makes them attractive but quality does not
How can you compare these models? Some are 42 inch sets, some are 46 or 47 inch sets? Surely you have to compare like for like sizes as cost is a major factor in purchase. The Sharp isnt even a 100Hz set only the LC42XLE is (Sorry I know this has already been mentioned).
In my opnion this Poll is flawed.
well sorry about the mistake about the sharp as already mentioned anybody else feel the need to mention that one again.
as for the sizes blimey treat them all as the 40 or 42 inch sets yes the poll is flawed but why dont people just focus in the LCDs coments about those would be much better and far more interesting
Well i don't want to offend UK people on this forum but...
If we speak about top top models and latest technology Sharp isn't in the same leauge with Sony .Sammy and Phillips...
What is missing in LCDTV technology to be almost perfect?? Colours!!! Not even plazma can't represent correct colour pallet such as old CRT.. until this new LCD_TV models!!
Philips 14bit (RGB) colours . !!
I have a Sony 40" X3500 on order.
The newest plasmas are pretty much there now - far closer than any LCD is for getting it right. (most are going for wide gamut technologies which is taking them further away from being accurate)
That's interesting that the Philips has 14-bit colour processing though, but they don't seem to mention what the panel (LUT) is. 14-bit processing is only going to do so much if the panel itself can only display 6/8-bit colour. (that's why it's good that Sony are advertising that the new BRAVIAs are 10-bit panel and processing) Previous Philips displays have been quite bad for posterisation as they used Sharp panels, so I'm not keeping my hopes up. Regardless, they still don't have a backlight control, which makes the display unwatchable in my opinion. (I watch in a darkened room)
From that list, I would be looking at the BRAVIA or the Toshiba Z series. Going from previous sets, Toshiba tends to handle standard definition better than the BRAVIAs do, and have a great colour management system. The only thing holding back Toshiba sets in the past was the panel they chose which tended to have very poor black levels and viewing angles. Apparently the Z series is using the same SPVA panels Sony/Samsung are using, so it could well be better than them.
Are there any dates when these ranges will go on-sale?
The Samsung LE40F86BD and it's 46 inch version are already on sale. Check it's own thread for info. Not sure about the rest off the top of my head.
Agree totally!! If Phlipis wont use new panels then 14- bit colours proccessing
is nosense or better we were fuc*ed again and again!!!
I can't wait to see some screenshots!! (let say true PAL - Discovery)
samsung f86, i thin for the price theres little competition
close but not quite
the Toshiba TV using the S-PVA panels is the Picture X series (or XF) which comes in Sony/Samsung 40" and 46" sizes
the Z series uses the same old 37" / 42" panels albeit with 10 bit processing. It was previously stated the Z series would be a 10 bit panel, but the Tosh UK website only states 10 bit processing.
It's a tough call. Off the top of my head I'd say the Sammy in 40". My budget tops out at 1200 UK pounds (and is burning a hole!!), which undoubtedly discounts anything 100hz with a Sony badge.
I've been toying with the idea of the Tosh, but need to wait for reviews. I've got no interest in ambilight stuff so Philips is out for me.
I guess Sharp could surprise everyone with a perfect set?
closer but not quite
It seems that Toshiba is using
S-PVA for: 57Z3030, 52Z3030, 46FZ355D (I wouldn't mind this one) and XFs
IPS for 42Z3030
MVA for 42x3030
which league is that? the clouding one or the juddering one or perhaps the lousy SD perfomance one...
Exactly, if Sharp resolves the banding issues I will go for the XL2E.
Why isn't the poll showing the XL2?
Outstanding, I didn't realise that thread had gone from 'on the way' to 'on sale now!'
Sounds like it's a winner - top of the list for me at the moment.
Thanks for the heads up,
it has some important "cons" for me
[100Hz Motion Plus] introduces various interpolation artifacts (tearing, shimmering, sparkles)
below average viewing angle of 90º
The Samsung is not an option for me
had this problem with samsungs before will try one out if i dont like it will sent it back
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