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which LCD over plasma

kevantlin

Established Member
i am thinking of getting a pioneer 427xd but the screen burn issues have me worried.

Which is the LCD that is currently regarded as a plasma beater for PQ

By the way done loads of trawling but there seems to be so many threads it becomes folow
 

deadlyledley

Established Member
i am thinking of getting a pioneer 427xd but the screen burn issues have me worried.

Which is the LCD that is currently regarded as a plasma beater for PQ

By the way done loads of trawling but there seems to be so many threads it becomes folow

sony x series
 

johnny-17

Prominent Member
I'm just looking for a 32" lcd at the moment, but I would seriously consider the Pioneer, if I were you. I got the 436xde this time last year ( as did a friend too) which I thought that I'd ruined, but any screen burn you hear of is always just image retention. I chuck anything at my set and it always comes up good. Yes you do need to take a bit more care, but the end results seem to look more natural over lcd somehow(tomy eyes at least). It's getting a close contest however and more difficult each week to know which ones to choose. I don't regret my purchase and it's still our main tv, but lcd models are what's available at the moment in 32" flavours, so thats what my next purchase will have to be. I'll probably end up comparing the two no doubt but the lcd will be just for day to day stuff and the plasma will be for dvd's and Xbox360 etc. Who knows - maybe Sed next time around in a few years ?
 

Dazo

Established Member
i am thinking of getting a pioneer 427xd but the screen burn issues have me worried.

Which is the LCD that is currently regarded as a plasma beater for PQ

By the way done loads of trawling but there seems to be so many threads it becomes folow

I am not a expert in any way mate but i know a good picture when i see one. I have just set up my brand new Sony KDL-40W2000 and i am delighted with the picture. After reading some of the threads in here i was starting to worry about blurring etc. However using scart and Sky+ and a little fiddle with the settings the picture is so much better than my old Panasonic 32" crt. Can't wait for the arrival of SkyHD on Wednesday. I opted for LCD because my younger kids have the tv on all day with some sort of logo on the screen.
 

kevantlin

Established Member
I opted for LCD because my younger kids have the tv on all day with some sort of logo on the screen.

thats exactly what is stopping me buying a plasma

do you think the x will give major improvement over the w:confused:
 

Dazo

Established Member
thats exactly what is stopping me buying a plasma

do you think the x will give major improvement over the w:confused:

I have no idea mate as i say i am no expert. I do know the X range is a step up but what you get for your money i could not say. I am sure someone will be along shortly to point out the difference. I was convinced i was going to get a plasma but opted for LCD and the sony at the last minute. I am delighted with my choice.
 

kevantlin

Established Member
thanks dazo, how do you rate the sd feed compared to what you may have seen instore on a plasma
 

bongobob

Standard Member
My old pioneer pdp 435 easily beats my sony 32v2000. Having said that, standard def sky can be very good on the lcd. I'm replacing my pioneer with an x series tho at the larger screen size. Whereas the 40 and 46 v series are actually a bit poor, the x series is in a completely different league. I was wathching sky HD thru my mates pio 427 the other night and it produces a fantastic pic, but the x is easily its equal in my opinion.
 

jpb82

Established Member
6th generation pioneer plasmas like the 436xde were
a little bit temperamental for image retention however
pioneer's new 7th generation plasmas like the 427xd
are extremely reliable and very resistant to screen burn
the truth is that with modern plasmas you would have to
really abuse it to get screen burn these days.

as long as you run your screen in properly and dont
leave static images on screen for hour after hour
you'll never have to worry about screen burn you
might get a litte bit of retention here and there
but that disappears quite quickly.

the fact is for me no lcd in the world comes close
to a top quality plasma for PQ and if you decide to choose
plasma over lcd i dont think you'll regret it.
 

chambeaj

Prominent Member
My old pioneer pdp 435 easily beats my sony 32v2000. Having said that, standard def sky can be very good on the lcd. I'm replacing my pioneer with an x series tho at the larger screen size. Whereas the 40 and 46 v series are actually a bit poor, the x series is in a completely different league. I was wathching sky HD thru my mates pio 427 the other night and it produces a fantastic pic, but the x is easily its equal in my opinion.

Providing you can tolerate poor colour reproduction, motion blur/stuttering and loss of detail on horizontal pans. Not to mention dismal SD performance (poor de-interlacing, poor scaling, fails 2:3 pull-down test) etc.

The Pioneer 427 easily has superior colour processing and motion handling to the SONY X.

And then there's the Fujitsu 58 Series which completely blows away the SONY for picture quality.
 

chambeaj

Prominent Member
Not surprising seeing as there's no such thing.

2:2 pull down and 3:2 pull down are fine though (and anyway would be done by any half decent DVD player with flag reading).

I stand corrected (frequently quote those digits the wrong way around).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3:2_pull_down

Overall comments still apply though. The X-Series suffers noticeable stutter on horizontal pans and remains imho a very poor quality display for a number of reasons (not to mention being overpriced).

Hopefully, SONY will get their act together and sort out the processing on the next generation. Although given the increasing competition (i.e. panel prices dropping too fast) and the financial problems SONY currently faces, my guess is the quality of their products will simply continue to take a turn for the worse in the coming years.
 

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