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  1. sneaky

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    Others pieces of kit that I am now looking at are:-

    Display Card - Which Radeon Sapphire - there are so many which ones will do the job - how much onboard memory.

    Which DVD Writer - Looks like the pioneer (is it 106 or a06) overclockers have both.

    Will the DVD recorder give good playback as well.

    The HCPC will be used mainly for DVD Playback and Recording from a nebula TV card.

    Thanks

    Chris
     
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    The Sapphire 9600 non-pro is your best bet, 128Mb is more than enough for an HTPC.

    Current 'hot' writer is the Plextor 708, Pioneer 106, Sony DRU-510 or NEC 1300A etc. .. all much of a muchness really for an HTPC application IMHO.

    DVD playback same on readers and writers.
     
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    Thanks Kragorn,

    Sapphire ATI Radeon 9600 256MB DDR TV-Out/DVI - Retail (GX-033-SP)

    Presumably this will do the job. Its only £15 more than the SE Model - so may as well go for it.

    Thanks

    Chris
     
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    If you want :) .. but the 256Mb is absolutely useless and unused in an HTPC, even in a heavy gamer's machine it barely registers.

    Your BIG concern is to get a card without a fan, these are seriously noisy in an HTPC context, NON-PRO is the way to go for that.
     
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    My 3 Choices at Overclockers are:-

    HELP

    Sapphire ATI Radeon 9600SE 128MB DDR TV-Out/DVI - Retail (GX-041-SP)

    Sapphire ATI Radeon 9200 128MB DDR TV-Out/DVI PCI - Retail (GX-032-SP)

    Sapphire ATI Radeon 7000 64MB DDR TV-Out/DVI AGP - Retail (GX-044-SP)

    Does it make much difference which company you go with Sapphire as opposed to Power Colour??


    Also any idea what the difference is between a Pioneer 106 and A06.

    Thanks

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    Just seen a 7500 128MB DVI FOR £40 will that give me the quality I crave.

    Sorry to be a pain but very difficult for a newbie to know what works and what doesnt.

    Chris
     
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    I had a 7500 using TV-Out, don't even remember it having a DVI :eek:, didn't have a DVI-toting projector back then. I'm pretty sure the MPEG decoder side of the 7500 is the same as the 9xxx cards but I can't swear to it and that's the important bit. The 9200 would be fine AFAIK though personally I've only used the 7500 and a 9600 and above so maybe wait for someone else to confirm.

    The 106 and A06 are the same machines, difference is one is 'retail' and the other 'OEM'. Generally, OEMs are cheaper but often aren't supported by the manufacturer .. for example the Sony DRU-500 was a retail product and Sony produced firmware updates for then, the A10 or whatever it was called was the OEM version and Sony didn't support it. Whether Pioneer are like that I don't know. That said, there are plenty of third-party firmware hacks over at The Firmware Page if you feel adventurous.
     
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    The Core in the 9600 series and higher apparantly has slightly better mpeg decode than the older 9xxx series cards, which use the same core as the 8xxx series cards.
     
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    Thanks Sean,

    Il go with the 9600 128mb Sapphire.

    Do use an Sigma XCard or anything else of that ilk for the DVD.

    Chris
     
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    I currently use Sonic DVD decoders, don't really have the money to experiment with Xcard and PDI yet.
     
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    What are the sonic DVD decoders, are they software based.
     
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    Yes they are a software solution. I use them inside of the ZoomPlayer front end software, with DXVA turned on.
     
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    My brief, if turbulent experience with an X-Card ;), showed me the Sonic drivers produced a better image PQ on my Z2 than the X-Card .. something Sweetspot (the suppliers of the card) said was likely to be the case.

    TheaterTek, the DVD player I use and many consider the best, uses decoders for audio and video produced by Sonic .. these can be bought directly from Sonic and used with another play if you prefer, many use ZoomPlayer with Sonic decoders for instance, as Sean does, other DVD players can also use them.
     
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    So Kragorn are you telling me I have wasted my hard earned cash. I have purchased the sweetspot as well.

    Chris
     
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    Can you give me the sonic website.

    Kragorn
     
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    Depends why you spent your cash. :)

    I wanted to use the X-Card as a more convenient alternative and also to give me alternate outputs. The PQ from the Sonic drivers was better but not by so much that I wouldn't have been happy to accept the lower PQ for convenience and flexibility, returning to TT when PQ was paramount.
     
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    Not off the top of my head, sorry, I just know they exist. I've seen a link to them in the not too distant past, try a search on here, otherwise try visiting the ZoomPlayer site I'm sure they must be mentioned there.
     
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