Hi everyone, I feel I am in a bit of a catch-22 situation here as I need to replace an old ropy vhs video with one of these new shiny dvd recorders. The thing is which format to choose, here is what I need. 1. It has to be easy as a vhs video to use. 2. I need to record on a re-writable disk from Sky and use the disk to play on a Philips 963 in another room for projector duties. 3. It has to be very reliable. 4. Cheap disks as I record quite a bit of telly. 5. High qaulity pictures but also giving 4 hours recording time. I have done a search here on AV and come to the conclusion that the machine I need does not exist yet. I really like the look of the Panasonic E50 but my 963 will not play dvd-ram. The Philips machines are a no go area as some of the posts here tell of major problems with reliability and disk reading. I e-mailed Philips to try and find out when the new DVDR75+80 will be released but they could give me no dates ( 963 all over again ). The only hope I can see is the new Sony multi format machine but at £700+ its twice the price of the E50 and I suspect it will not be twice the machine. It looks like I will have to sit on the fence for a while yet and wait to see what happens. Your thoughts would be most welcome so please fire away..... Thanks Klippie.