Question Which CD player to replace Marantz CD80??

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  1. gkt

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    Hi,

    I am looking to buy a Cd player which would replace my Marantz CD80 player which sadly is jumping and not reading discs very well. It would seem parts for this player are non existent anymore!

    I presently have Arcam Black box.. Audiolab Pre-amp...Audiolab c Amp.. Kef 104/2 speakers.

    Any advice would greatly received!

    Thanks.

    Gary.
     
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    If you like Marantz why not the cd6006?
     
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    Hi.. yes should of mentioned I managed to save for CD player of a budget up to £1000.. taken me a long time.. almost ready to take the plunge.. ☺
     
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    Oh ok. Quick question, are you going to go directly your amp or through your black box digitally?
     
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    I'd stick with Marantz, they do make really good CD spinners. All depends how far up the Marantz food chain you are willing to go. Entry would be the excellent 6006, the next step the 8006, or the SA 8005. There is one available at Audible Fidelity.
    Marantz SA8005 SACD Player
     
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    If you're ready to move now then the SA8005 is a steal. Good improvement even on standard CD over the 6006, I own both. Terrific headphone amp built into the 8005, solid construction and a quiet in operation. With two digital inputs the 8005 could also be used as a DAC hub. I bought my 8005 from Audible Fidelity and had it by courier the next day.
     
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    What would recommend??
     
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    the Marantz CD8005 is a great CD player, but why not take a look at the AudioLab 8300CD or the Roksan Kandy K3 CD Players. If you really want the Marantz, I would not forget that the CD8005 has been replaced by the Marantz ND8006 which is only £100 ish more.


    All the above CD players are cracking musical CD players. The latest Marantz has Network ability enabling which does give you another avenue for playing music. Both the AudioLab and Roksan are do have there own qualities which distance themselves from the Marantz, but maybe not enough when you can add networking to its plus points
     
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    Thanks great advice.. would this player be ok wired optically from the black box ok?
     
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    I'd use a pair of nice quality phono leads to the Arcam as I expect the DAC within the Marantz will perform the task better. If you use an optical cable, then the job will be passed to the Arcam amp and from that point, you my as well just buy the CD6006SE
     
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    If you had your cd 80 wired through the black box and you do the same with ANY cd player the sound should remain identical. That negates the need to spend 1000, any cd player will work.

    If you are going to use the cd players own DAC they may all sound slightly different.

    The sa8005 can be wired through the black box DAC but you lose sacd function, which is a reason one might use this player
     
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    Thanks so much for the links etc.. amazing help from this forum.. looking now!
     
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    Yes, the player also has digital outs both coax and optical. Reasons for and against have been outlined by others. Suffice it to say that the Marantz has a terrific DAC and may very well be superior to the Black Box. SACD play on the 8005 is superb, terrific soundstage, it's costing me a small fortune.;)
     
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    Sorry what is sadc function?
     
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    Yes I can imagine!! ha thank you!
     
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    if I opted for the Marantz 8805 or 8006.. how would it be best wired? use Black box or not?
     
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    The sa8005 is a cd player that also plays higher resolution sacd discs.
     
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    Sorry to sound a bit confused! If I were to opt for the Marantz 8006 and connect it to the Amp with Phono leads would the Black box be obsolete?
     
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    Oh Ok makes sense... cheers
    Making sense... :)
     
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    SACD stands for Super Audio Compact Disc. Basically its usually a better recording. There have been other similar formats from DVD-Audio and Blu-ray Audio with SACD out living them all.

    In essence, it means you can hear a higher fidelity sound from recordings on a SACD
     
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    No, you will still require the black box as it is still required to control the volume levels and inputs. In essence, its like a fancy switch from here onwards (all be it a nice one)
     
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    Ok I feel bad asking such a simple question!! but if I do away with the Black box.. I am left with Audiolab pre-amp and Audiolab c amp and the new cd player.. How would it be wired with phono leads.. I am sure its easy.. I've over complicated it in my mind!
     
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    Ah! what is the black box? have you a model number on it so we can assist you further. I was amusing it was the pre-amp, but now you could be talking about an Arcam DAC
     
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    Can you shed any light as how to wire up Marantz 8006 to all of the equipment.. by phono then?
     
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    Arcam Delta black box Digital Audio interface..
     
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    Firstly I could do with knowing what the Arcam black box is? If you can obtain a model number that could be great.

    If its a tiny box, it could be the Arcam rDAC, if its a full size separate then it'll most likely be an FMJ D33 DAC.

    This will be why you are mentioning, connecting it with an optical cable as your current CD player is connected to it.
     
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    Right, I've found the black box. It's just before my time with Arcam electronics. I was with the Diva onwards.

    As things have moved on a very long way with electronics, I would say that the Arcam Black Box is most likely something that you will not require with a new CD player costing around £1k.

    You could simply unplug those cables from the Arcam whilst leaving the other end of the cable still plugged into the AudioLab pre-amp. From here, you would simply connect the left channel to the Marantz' left channel and so on. Ensure you have everything powered down and unplugged from the mains before hand though.
     
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    I believe the Marantz ND 8006 will offer more functionality than the cd8005 being a network streamer also, but as the others said if you can get an 8005 now that it's been phased out it would be a steal. Another option you could consider if you're not interested in usb playback or integrated headphone amp, or SACD playback is the Cyrus CDi which is also an excellent player.

    The Black box is indeed a bit dated, but I wouldn't rule it out as the Philips chip it uses sounds damn good even today. If you opt to use your DAC, you could consider the Cyrus CD t which is a CD transport (no onboard DAC). Then there is the Cambridge audio CXC transport which people say is very good, but I'm not sure if it can compete with the CD t or a Marantz 8005. Still, if you use it as a transport the 8005 should be more than good enough with the added plus of a direct headphones out, so you may want to consider buying a Marantz anyway and decide how to connect it based on your ears.
     
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    Wow ok great..!! It's mouthwatering stuff... thank you.
     

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