Which car ?!

richjthorpe

Novice Member
Hi all,

Due to an another addition to the family in about 3 months time, I'm going to have to change my 2 seater for a 4 seater (I'm able to take my daughter out in my car, but short of welding a car seat to the roof or a trailer, the MR2 will have to be changed !)

As we have a 5 door Golf as the family car, I wouldn't mind a 'sportier' car that is in the same direction in handling as my MR2. So can anyone suggest cars with a max limit of 10k GBP that have the following criteria.....

1. Four Seats
2. Front Engined, Rear Wheel Drive
3. Boot Space

Ideas I have are Supras, Celicas (Wife likes the new one), GTOs and 300ZXs. Are there any I'm not mentioning ? Don't really want a BMW or Merc. How does the new Celica match up with handling with the Front Engine, Front Wheel Drive design ?

Cheers,

Richie.
 

Solomon Grundy

Distinguished Member
The GTO's and 300zx's are 4wd anyway and getting on a bit in years now, however Supras are rwd and were made up to 1998 and are almost bulletproof (a 1998 twin turbo will set you back around £10k and will cost a lot to insure but you get sub 5.0 secs 0-60).

Have a look at an import Nissan Silvia S15...the new version of the 200sx, not available from Nissan UK. Awesome car, very nice to look at and cheapish to insure and run. Failing that an S14 200SX will be well within your budget and were sold in the UK until a year or two ago, £10k should get you the best example available. I have one myself and love it, the boot space is surprising.

edit: oh yes, Celicas are wet...
 

Ian J

Banned
You may have a problem with bootspace in the Supra or Mitsi GTO as they would both struggle to hold more than a newspaper.

I looked at both cars a few years ago when I wanted something similar to yourself but the lack of boot space knocked them off the list and I ended up with a Peugeot 406 Coupe which is rather nice with the 3.0 litre engine and it isn't as thirsty as one might imagine.

Four seats, a huge boot but front wheel drive
 

MartinImber

Active Member
I bought a Vauxhall Omega MV6
 

Solomon Grundy

Distinguished Member
gringottsdirect said:
Nissan 300ZXs are rear wheel drive. :cool:
Doh, my mistake, the brother in law has a 300zx and a Lamborghini Diablo (which is 4wd), I got the two mixed up...sorry. :blush:

Soarer woul be a great choice...the plain 3 litre non turbo is ok to insure and not too bad on gas...
 

The Dude

Distinguished Member
So very nearly bought a V8 soarer back in January... bought an RX7 instead...and the rest, as they say, is history... ( as is the RX7 ) :rolleyes:

:devil:
 

Ian J

Banned
I had a Soarer for a couple of years and it fits the bill admirably except that they are getting on a bit now. The 3 litre and 4 litre engines are the same as in the Supra and various Lexus models and are fast and reliable whilst the 2.5 litre twin turbo is more exotic.
 

richjthorpe

Novice Member
As I said, at the moment I have an MR2 (mk2) that surprisingly I can get the buggy into the back of so I would say a Supra would be big enough.

What are Soarers like at handling ? Aren't they quite big ?

Richie.
 

The Dude

Distinguished Member
They're big, and heavy, but the one I tested was a very nice handling car for something of that size, and nice regardless of size to be honest.

Not sporty in the RX7 sense, but certainly not flabby either.
Luvverly motor too, the 4.0 V8 is a thing of beauty.
 

Ian J

Banned
richjthorpe said:
As I said, at the moment I have an MR2 (mk2) that surprisingly I can get the buggy into the back of so I would say a Supra would be big enough.
The boot only has a depth of a few inches and you most certainly will not be able to fit a buggy in.
 

Mad Mikeyboy

Novice Member
Maybe it just me, but shouldn't you now be looking at safety aspects rather than performance?
I'm not suggesting you'll be driving like a madman when baby is on board, of course not, but when he/she is in the car performance will be the last thing on your mind. So for that reason I will suggest a good compromise, something like an Audi A8 a couple of years old will be within your budget.

Or how about the RX8? Isn't that RWD? Maybe a bit more expensive but the reverse opening door will be ideal for acessing the baby seat in the back.
 

Solomon Grundy

Distinguished Member
Honestly the S15 Silvia seems to be what you are looking for...
 

richjthorpe

Novice Member
mikeyinmotion said:
Maybe it just me, but shouldn't you now be looking at safety aspects rather than performance?
I'm not suggesting you'll be driving like a madman when baby is on board, of course not, but when he/she is in the car performance will be the last thing on your mind. So for that reason I will suggest a good compromise, something like an Audi A8 a couple of years old will be within your budget.

Or how about the RX8? Isn't that RWD? Maybe a bit more expensive but the reverse opening door will be ideal for acessing the baby seat in the back.
When you say safety aspects, what ones are you thinking of ? The fact that coupes don't have rear doors ? All cars will have decent side impact systems, especially performance cars as they stiffen the whole boy to minimise role. If anything a dinky little Metro or the like would be far dangerous in my eyes but there are plenty of those that women use to transport the kids to school.

Audi A8 is far too big. This car wont be the main family car, it will be the odd couple of days where I have to take the kids to the in-laws and my wife brings them back for example.

Test drove an RX-8 a while back. That engine just doesn't have the torque, it was flat as a fart ! And too expensive :)
 

richjthorpe

Novice Member
Decadence said:
Honestly the S15 Silvia seems to be what you are looking for...
Is that the same as the 200SX ?
 

richjthorpe

Novice Member
Skyline has a WAF factor of zero !

The S15s are like hens teeth. Can't find much on the internet unless it's upgrades and drifters ! Even less for sale and only one under 10k.

Maybe the S14.....

Cheers all,

Richie.
 

deanym

Active Member
What about an Audi S3? Great build quality, very practical, quite good looking and can scare a scooby or two.
 

Solomon Grundy

Distinguished Member
jamesvtidohc said:
it is a 200sx, but version s15 and is an import.

hows about a skyline?
Yep, it's the brand new (couple of years old) version of the 200sx...not available in Britain. They also do a Varietta roadster version but that would be no use for you as it is a 2 seater.
 
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ToshTV

Guest
As the car is for occasional use, I reckon you should choose from the cars below. I have driven them all, and they are all great.
Plus, they have an air of practicality about them :)

- Alfa 156 GTA (FWD though- lovely cars (I have a 147 GTA))

- Audi RS2 (just fantastic, and so iconic in Nugaro Blue)

- Audi S4 (Newer that RS2 but not as cool)

- BMW E34 M5 touring (I know it's a BMW but these are uber cool)

- Jaguar XJ-R (I used to have a 6 cylinder one - V8s should now be in budget)

- Lancia Integrale

- Mercedes C43 or W124 E500/500E (I know they are Mercedes, but these drive fantastically)

- Porsche 928 S4



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markymark34

Well-known Member
i can reccommend a 200sx. really love them although doesnt even come close to the Mr2 turbo i had (sold now unfortunately) but obviously has a lot more space.

The celica is really nice too even though its front wheel drive handles beatufully and doesnt drint the fuel.

Wish i could afford a fun car!

mark
 

skeet94

Standard Member
I'd take a look at a Toyota Aristo V300 ;).

Basically it's a Lexus GS300 but with the Supra 2JZ-GTE from factory. Japanese Import, and VERY RARE! But some nice examples do seem to pop up on Autotrader from time to time.

I've got one myself and I must say it definitely shocks ALOT of people!! :).

Here's pictures to mine...www.cardomain.com/id/skeet94 :).

It's got TONS of boot space...enough space for three in the back...and it's fully kitted out in terms of luxury. Also handles much better than the UK spec standard GS Series also has ARS (Active Rear Steering), and tiptronic as standard. Picked mine up for £8250 this time last year, so is definitely possible within your budget :).

Did I say I eat M3's, Scoobie's, S14/S15 200SX up for breakfast? ;)
 
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andych732

Guest
Go for a skyline, the R33 GTR is in your budget.

310BHP, front engined , 4seats, 4wd with rear wheel bias,0-60 under 5 second and it looks good too.

Check out http://www.skylinegtr.8k.com/main.htm for all you need to know about this monster of a car
 

Chaos Star

Active Member
What about an Imprezza Turbo... has 4 Seats.. Handles Much Better than an MR2, said to turn even a crap driver into a budding schumacher. Performance wise it would eat a MR2 for Breakfast (Bar the Turbo Imports.. but its to much power for the MR2 chasis anyway)... Has four doors.. so good for kids... has a big boot for shopping and there is plenty to choose from. so you can take your time and get a really good example.... Also 4 wheel drive so nice n safe for the winter and carrying precious cargo, such as sprogs :) Also if you drive b roads its a even better bet.. not easy to keep up with an Imprezza on B roads in anything bar an EVO, which is another great car.. but not as many to choose from...
 
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ronaldbicker

Guest
If you like driving, i would reconsider the RX8, it drives well, looks good and well built, but poor mpg and not much torque, but ok for every day driving. took it to a track day last summer, and was the best experience ever!, managed to get 9mpg (shamful) and used lots of oil. if you drive it hard, you could use 1-1.5 litres of oil per 1K miles. So if you want to enjoy life - go for it, if you are hard up, get a Celica.
 

Layne RIP

Novice Member
andych732 said:
Go for a skyline, the R33 GTR is in your budget.

310BHP, front engined , 4seats, 4wd with rear wheel bias,0-60 under 5 second and it looks good too.

Check out http://www.skylinegtr.8k.com/main.htm for all you need to know about this monster of a car
The R33 GTR is a fantastic car and the skyline i would probably have (although if someone offered me a free R34 GTR i wouldn't say no)
The only thing i'd be worried about is if they have been driven the way they were built to be driven then you could be looking at some expensive bills.
For i.e.
Suspension, brakes, bushes and maybe even an engine rebuild (which alot of tuning companies recommend if your buying a used skyline, especially if your gonna fiddle with the power output)

Be wary of "cheap" GTR's too..... Good, well looked after examples aren't cheap and £10,000 to be honest is about the cheapest of those you'd probably find (bound to be an import too as they were about £20k cheaper than the UK ones, so sky high insurance)... make sure with any of these Jap Hypercars that you get it thoroughly inspected.

But on the plus side Abbey Motorsport offer (well they used to anyway) a 400bhp conversion for the R33 for £1000... (new exhuast and induction kit, plus a tweek of the waste gate actuator and robert's you mother's brother) :thumbsup:
 

johnny70

Well-known Member
the nissan 300zx TT is a fantastic car, no good for putting the kids in though, there is no real space in the back of these, i owned one for two years, everytime i drove it it put a smile on my face, but 2 clutches, 1 engine, 12 tyres, gearbox rebuild, and other stuff, they do break down even when well cared for, as there getting on a bit now.
Very difficult to drive in the wet, unless of course your used to 300bhp coming up from the rear end, and snow and ice, don't even go there!

Personally i'd go for the R33 GTR!

Cheers
JOHNNY
 

AnilS

Well-known Member
RX8 for me too (got one already :thumbsup: ).

However, you will not get one for £10K. Cheapest imports are around £14K and UK cars are about £16K.

Don't torque :D to me about torque, the 8 is not lacking. I had a Carlton 3000 GSi 24V before and I don't miss its serious torque :smashin: .

AnilS.
 

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