Which AVR for KEF 5.1 Package?

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  1. doush

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    Hello;
    In a few days I am having the KEF R500 (floorstanders) + R200C (Center) + KEF R100 (Rears) and KEF 400B Sub .

    The only thing missing now is an AVR.
    Which AVR would you buy if you had the above home theater system ?

    (Budget is around 500-600 GBP)
     
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    Hi Stephan;
    Thanks for your reply. What would you look at instead of an R400b ?
     
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    Depends on room size, and use. Something like SVS PB2000, SB2000, or SB Ultra or other ID sub companies, BK XLS400/Monolith, Power Sound S3000i etc
     
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    Now I am checking the sub alternatives as you mentioned.
    As an AVR, Will Denon AVR-X2200W be OK for my setup ?
    Any other suggestions ?
     
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    I've got a Rel T5, albeit it with a collection of Kef 3005s. It really does compliment and underpin the Kef speakers beautifully which is terrific when watching concert blu rays and it can give an adequate thump to various films.

    As for your receiver the Denon AVR x3100w, or go for the pricier, though not by much, x4100w and prepare yourself for Atmos. I'm using the older Denon AVR-2310 with my Kefs and at the moment can see no reason for changing, even at six years old it stills performs beautifully.
     
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    A bit off topic as you’ve asked about an AVR

    Recently, I’ve bought a SVS SB-2000 subwoofer for the KEF speaker setup that you can read in my signature. It’s a compact subwoofer and it’s suitable for music and movies in a medium sized room (23 sq. metres, my room).
     
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    With the R Series you should be looking way above the AVRX2200 and your budget of £500 to 600 needs to be north of £1000 preferably. If you are saving money on the subwoofer then put that in to the receiver as otherwise you will have stunning speakers that will not sound anywhere near what they are capable of.
     
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    Thanks for the advice. What should I be looking at ?
    Maybe X3200W or a Yamaha RX-A1050 or ONKYOs or maybe Pioneer VSX-1130 (no DTSX)?
     
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    I'd suggest the Marantz SR7010.

    There's no real benefit to owning the AVRX3200W over the AVRX2200W apart from the second HDMI zone capabilities of the AVRX3200W over the AVRX2200W. If this is too pricey then maybe look at the SR6010 as opposed to the AVRX3200W?

    Your speakers are upper mid range and you appear to be looking at entry level receivers to power them? The cost of the speakers suggests you should be looking at spending at least £1K on the receiver to partner with them in order to get the best from them. You can obviously buy a cheaper receiver, but you may not be getting the full potential from the speakers if you do so?
     
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    I have checked both Marantz AVRs and SR6010 and 7010 will be available in September.
     
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    I use the CA 751r with the KEF r500 & r200c. These two make for an excellent combo (to my ears).
     
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    What about Denon X4200W ?
     
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    Depends on what kind of sound you're after. The Denon would be to warm sounding for my taste. I had a Marantz in the past and wasn't happy.

    I would definitely re think the r400b and put the money towards a better AVR. Possibly Pioneer LX58 at around £1000

    Maybe even hold of on the sub and put the money to a higher end AVR.

    Anthem, Pioneer & Cambridge would be where i would be looking.

    Not much experience with Yamaha.

    Where in the country are you?
     
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    I am in Cyprus. I canceled the R400B and will get the REL-T9 as those are the only ones available.
    I saved around 100GBP so not that much. LX58 wont have DTS:X as far as I see but you think it is superior than x4200W ?
     
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    If willing to forego DTS:X and or HDCP 2.2 compliance then maybe look into last years Marantz SR7009? I'm not sure as to how much this will cost you in Cyprus though, but you can get it for about £800 here in the UK.

    Other than this, I'd suggest you delay buying a new receiver until there are more DTS:X and HDCP 2.2 options available. Most manufacturers are in the process of launching this years replacements for last year's receivers so you are limited to last year's models until this transition is complete. This in turn will primarily limit you to receivers lacking DTS:X and or HDCP 2.2 compliance.
     
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    Actually thats why I am considering x4200W because it has HDCP2.2 and DTSX and pricing I got is around 1300Euros for that receiver. It will be available 15th of August in my dealer. I dont know if it matches the KEF speakers that I have though in terms of sound quality. But it seems like a mid-high range receiver.
     
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    KEF speakers are relatively neutral so any receiver would be fine. Your own tastes on the other hand may not like how one receiver sounds when compared to another? I'd suggest you try audition before you make a purchase.

    I'd personally suggest that the Marantz receivers have a slighly better sound than the Denon receivers, especially in relation to music sources. Both are owned by the same concern (D&M) and use many of the same components, but the Marantz models use a slightly more elaborate (HDAM)analogue output board tuned towards attracting a more audiophile orientated audience than the Denon models. Pioneer are often considered clinical in nature so can be fatiguing to listen to for long periods. Yamaha's signature sound falls somewhere between that of Denon and Pioneer.

    The AVRX4200W sits below the Marantz SR7010 and slighly above the SR6010. It would equate to the Yamaha RXA1050 or somewhere between the Pioneer LX58 and the LX78.
     
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    @dante01
    Wow that was the answer I was looking at. Since I dont have the opportunity to listen and decide these AVRs, your reply really helped me a lot. Thanks a lot.
    I am still considering the options but X4200W seems to be the sweet spot in pricing and quality wise for now.
     
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    I have got the speakers. My dealer has Pioneer VSX-1130-K now on hand. What do you say about this receiver compared to x4200W ?
    I am still in trouble choosing the AVR :(
     
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    I have the VSX-1130K since 3 months and it perfect for Home theater. Playing nicely and enough power for 5.1 surround.

    I have tried to push music on new Polk Audio T600 front, and old PSB800i at the back + PSW125 sub. I wasn't happy anymore, distorsion was coming thru at 87 to 89db. Will now changing for Yamaha 3050 or Marantz 7010
    Will keep my VXS-1130K for Home theater only !
     

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