Which Amp From These Three??

Discussion in 'AV Receivers & Amplifiers' started by todinks, Nov 7, 2001.

  1. todinks

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    I'M UPGRADING FROM A DENON PROLOGIC AMP.
    I NEED AN AMP MAINLY FOR HOME THEATER RATHER THAN PURE MUSIC.

    I'VE SHORTLISTED THE FOLLOWING:

    (1) DENON AVC- A10SE
    (2) ONKYO TX-DS898
    (3) DENON AVR-3802

    IS THE DENON AVR-4802 THE UPGRADE TO THE A10SE OR IS IT THE AVC - 11SR?

    SHOULD I WAIT FOR THE AVC - 11SR TO BE RELEASED?

    HOW IMPORTANT IS THX ULTRA / THX SELECT?

    IS DOLBY PROLOGIC II REALLY REQUIRED?

    SUGGESTIONS / ADVICE ANYONE FOR THIS POOR LOST SOUL?
     
  2. DodgeTheViper

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    It is the 11SR and when it is released it will be expensive !

    THX or otherwise is not important. I have one !

    Dolby pro-logic 11 is quite a star and will prove enjoyable with normal stereo sources.

    In my opinion right now opt for the Denon AVR3802. I,ve been reading on this for a bit now and have the manual to digest. It has all the decoding options you need and plenty of power, and as for the price well, say no more. Will be buying mine shortly before they run out !!!

    Kev
    P.S. What setup / speakers do you have ?
     
  3. todinks

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    I WAS THINKING OF:
    B&W 604 FRONTS
    B&W ASW-1000 SUB
    B&W CDM CNT CENTER

    MY ROOM SIZE: LENGTH=20 FEET; BREADTH=13 FEET;
    AREA=260 SQ.FT.

    WOULD THE DENON AVR-3802 AND B&W 604 PAIR UP WELL OR SHOULD I CONSIDER A MORE EXPENSIVE AMP?

    THX POST PROCESSING REALLY DOESN'T MAKE A DIFFERENCE TO SOUND???
    I THINK THATS THE FIRST DECISION I NEED TO MAKE - WHETHER TO GO FOR A THX AMP OR NOT!!
    IT WOULD CERTAINLY SIMPLIFY MATTERS

    ANY COMMENTS?
     
  4. MarkB

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    My personal advice would be to opt for the AVC-A11SR if you can, otherwise opt for the 3802 as indicated by Kevin.

    THX certification extends well past simply another DSP mode – it ensures that the entire amplifier is up to a certain standard. Power output, guaranteed speaker phase, subwoofer crossover, quality of components etc. it's probably best to read up on it if you can.
    http://www.thx.com/consumer_products/home_faq.html


    Mark
     
  5. DodgeTheViper

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    THX for me, introduces too many variables. As the exact accoustic measurments from a cinema auditorium are transferred to domestic hardware. One of the adjustments made (one of many) is to the treble, it is cut off, and is noticeable against DD. It is because of these exact parameters that so many adjustments are needed to domestic hardware. Then you come to the speakers which, must conform also.
    You generally pay more for THX badged hardware but , that shouldn,t necessarily be the deciding factor !
    Personally i would not make it top of my list. Also think of the potential upgrade path. All upgrades would need to be THX badged which, can limit your choice also.

    In the end it,s down to you !

    Kev
     
  6. todinks

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    is the DENON AVR-3802 sufficient to drive the B&W 604 or is a more powerful amplifier an absolute must??
    do they go well together?
     
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    If you buy the 604 you should buy a center from the same series, LCR6 is the best.

    If you want the CDM CNT, better of course, you should buy CDM front speakers too, the 1NTs will do with a good subwoofer, better still 1NTs all arround, but the rears are less important, as long as they go down to 80 hz.

    The 3802 will be enough, but you can always later add a Rotel amp for the fronts if you think you need more power...
     
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    IS IT AN ABSOLUTE MUST TO USE THE CENTRE SPEAKER FROM THE SAME SERIES??

    CAN I USE THE CDM CNT CENTRE SPEAKER WITH THE 604??
     
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    Yes, indeed you can use CDM CNT centre with 604 front.

    But using the same brand + model range centre & front gives you smooth transition.

    But I do not see any reason you must not use CNT with 604.

    I'm using CDM 7NT with CNT, and I have to tell you that CDM CNT is amazing centre speaker. :)

    I've never experienced LCR6, but I've used CC6 S2 and CMC.
    IMHO, CMC was better performer than CC6, but the performance gap between CDM CNT and CMC is way "BIGGER" than the gap between CMC and CC6.
    (I am assuming that LCR6 is about as good as CMC.)
    The only thing I hate about this CDM CNT is its stupid size. too big for a centre speaker. :(

    If I were you,

    1. Go with CDM 7NT for the main, CNT for the Center.
    If not due to whatever reason you have....
    2. Go with 604 for the main & CDM CNT for the centre.

    It is tough call actually, cuz...if you have 604 main and CDM CNT for the centre, the looks.. do not match. If this really bothers you you have no choice. LCR6 + 604 OR 7NT + CNT.

    But remember, as far as sonic performance goes..... when you watch movies(DD & DTS), the centre speaker is the most important part in your speaker system. Even more important than your main speakers.
     

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