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Which amp for B&W DM602 S3?

Discussion in 'AV Receivers & Amplifiers' started by goatywoaty, Jun 1, 2005.

  1. goatywoaty

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    Hi there, question as the title :thumbsup:

    I was looking to get a reasonable integrated amp to power these. The thing is ive also been suggested to get a power amp, but would I not also need a pre-amp for this as well or just use a normal amp along with a power amp?

    I would say my budget is around £200-£250 and would look at both new and second hand amps.

    Ive heard these speakers require quite a beefy amp, so any suggestions from anyone?

    Thank you for your time guys :D :clap:

    Goaty Woaty
     
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    Hi Goatywoaty,

    I have these speakers too and they are 'beefy'. I am running them from a NAD C352CT and it seems to do the job nicely. I have found one here for £292.
     
  3. goatywoaty

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    Cool do you like these speakers then? The Nad amp seems quite good actually. I was thinking maybe to go second hand though and get maybe ar Rotel Ra02 or maybe an Arcam a65+ not really sure though!
     
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    Yes, you will need a pre amp but it want necessarily be a separate component.

    Some integrated amps have the necessary outputs to connect to a power amp, and some CD players include a pre-amp to connect directly to a power amp.

    B&W with Rotel is a safe/unadventuous pairing, and the 2 do go naturally together. It will give you many years of enjoyment. :thumbsup:
     
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    Hi Harry, yeah I have heard a lot about the combination now, so I think I will go with that, im just not sure which Rotel amp I should be heading for. RA01 or RA02 and there is another one ive forgot the model....

    Any advice here? :) Are you sure the 40watts will be man enough to power the DM602 S3? as ive heard they are very power hungry!

    Thanks again for your time and advice everyone! :clap:
     
  6. Harry T2

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    In principle, yes. But it will depend on the size of your room and your listening requirements.

    For what it is worth, I would get the RA-02 initially. If I found that didn’t give me the desired power (or my next upgrade), I would add an RB-03 and bi-amp the B&W’s.
     
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    Yeah thats a very good suggestion Harry cheers for that :)

    Anyone else got any more advice they could give me on this or tips etc, oh yeah tips on how to barter them down at the shop :) :rotfl:
     
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    Depends on what you listen to. Lots of different amps will do the job but some are suited to all round sound others are a little more specialist.
     
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    40 watts will be more than enough. The 602's are very sensitive (90dB) due to their size and can be driven to deafening levels with a 20wpc valve amp.

    The Rotel RA-01/2/3 would be the default option here. Very good value for money and they sound great, however.......

    This combo can err on the bright side, which is a problem for rock & pop music in particular. Might be worth checking out a smoother amp - one whose treble is flat or rolled-off slightly at high frequencies. This should calm the 602's down a bit and make listening less faitguing.

    Would recommend something like the Cyrus 6, MF A3cr or Audio Analogue Puccini. All of these should be around £350-£400 used. Try to make your budget stretch that far if you can, it will be worth it.

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    Hiya Turtle,

    Thats a shame to hear that that combo may sound bright for rock music as I do listen to a lot of rock...may have to go with the cyrus then if i can pick one up for a half decent price second hand...

    Anyone else experienced this brightness with the Rotel amps?

    :clap:
     
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    Anyone any idea if an Arcam Alpha 10 amp would power these speakers well enough? It would cost a packet £50 second hand but I may be able to stretch to this if it is totally justified :) Would it be better than the RA-01/02 amps?


    Anyone? :clap:
     
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    Not familiar with the Arcam Alpha series, goaty, but they generally seem to have a good reputation. I'll be surprised if you get one for £50!!

    AFAIK, Arcam amps are smooth sounding, but don't take my word for it ;)

    DT
     
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    hahahaaa :rotfl: whoopsie big typo there!!! was meant to be £350!!! Im actually now considering some Celestion A1s....not sure tho...not to many people are going crazy praising them but some magazine reviews have been promising... id have to stretch to £330 for them though...
     
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    The Arcam / A1 combo will give you a lot of bang for your buck. Certainly alot more than the Rotel / B&W and should be in another league.

    IMHO, you are getting to the stage where you will start needing to demo and follow your own ears. Not everyone is susceptible to brightness, and the Rotel/B&W combo has many excellent attribute to offset against the "potential" negative.

    Equally, if you ask enough people, or read enough reviews, you will always find someone you can find fault with a particular product. But then again, I am just a man with a keyboard and internet connection!
     
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    Agreed, I should have made this more clear. The Rotel/B&W's strengths far outweigh any weaknesses. Well said Harry.

    DT
     
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    I would be spending quite a lot of money if i went for the arcam alpha 10 and celestion A1s, but a hell of a lot less than they cost new so it makes them seem very attractive...ideally i know i should demo but that is very hard for me, so does anyone else have any opinions on these two or can give me any information about their experiences with them?

    thank you everyone! :clap:
     

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