Narrowing my list down to 3, well probably in fact 2 they are Panasonic TX-65FZ952B LG OLED 65C8PLA Philips 65OLED803 As much as I love the ambilight on my current Philips I cannot see the justification in spending £1000 more on the Philips over the other two. The price of the Philips just does not seem to have come down since its release. So is a two horse race. One minute I decide on one then the next it is the other. Currently I mainly, and for the foreseeable future, watch predominantly SD content, so a good upscaler is a must. A 4K player will be on the shopping list at some point but for now will stick with BluRay discs. I like the fact the Panasonic has twin satellite tuners whereas the UK LG only has one. As I cannot find anything to the contrary I am assuming that plugging in a set of headphones mutes the speakers. On my current Philips that is not the case, to mute the speakers one has to go into the menu. As I spend probably 50% of my time using headphones I find this ideal as one is not constantly plugging and unplugging them. So I am still undecided, prices are very similar so not being pushed one way or another on that score. I will then sort of make my mind up then another spanners pops into the works such as the LG E8 is only £200 more than the C8 I might just put them into a hat and pull one out!