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Which 4 DVD LotR to choose?

Discussion in 'Movie Forum' started by rauer, Jul 9, 2002.

  1. rauer

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    I'd like to hear what's the current view of choosing the "right" LotR DVD set.

    I'll probably buy one of the basic 4 DVD widescreen sets (not 2 DVD P&S, not 2 DVD WS, not the R1 5 DVD Gift Set or the R2 4 DVD GS either..)

    However, I'm wondering which region to buy: R1, R2 or possibly R4? The NTSC / PAL dilemma is not an issue here. Also we have no way of knowing the image quality of each transfer.

    So, based on things like price, sound properties, censorship, included extras etc, which set to buy, from where and why?

    Not being to demanding, am I? ;)
     
  2. stevegreen

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    I've pre-ordered the 4 disc directors cut from Play.com

    Dunno if its the best/worst/most value or anything

    but, i do get free bookends apparently! :D
     
  3. groundy

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    http://www.dvdcompare.org.uk

    The above site might help you out in coming to a decision. They are usually very accurate in their comparisons though nothing is 100% finalised on unreleased discs. The above site does state a rumour of DTS on the R2 release but not on the R1.
     
  4. rauer

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    Being R2, I assume as I can't find the 4 DVD R1 set on Play's website..
     
  5. rauer

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    Could you please quote the exact link as I can't find it there..

    BTW, some links (like for example DVDPlanet web shop) mention the DTS ES sound for this R1 release..

    Here's a direct link (if the moderator won't erase it):

    http://www.dvdplanet.com/product_listing.asp?productid=25281&format=DVD
     
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    i think you are better getting the region 2
    as i think it will have better res then region 1,
    as for added stuff, i thought their will all be the same
    the 1 with 4 discs,and the 1 with 5 discs, for all regions
     
  7. Lex

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    I don't own a single Entertainment In Video DVD as I simply hate them, so my instinct is to go for Region 1, however from what I have heard so far they are all identical in packaging/content etc. - Although I think there are still some issues about it being reclassified in the UK because of the new/extra footage?

    By the way isn't the special edition one a five disc rather that a four disc set?
     
  8. rauer

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    I maybe wrong but as the R1 Gift Set (or whatever it'll be called) seems to contain 5 DVD's (including the NG document), most web sites give the idea of the R2 Gift Set being only 4 DVD's.

    Take a look at these for example:

    Play

    R2-DVD

    Of course it may turn out that the sets are identical in this regard, too..
     
  9. Rambo John J

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    They aren't exactly "free" though. You can get the same 4 disc directors cut in the leather bound book effect thing (either region), without the bookends, for around 10 to 15 quid less than the gift set with the bookends in it.

    I'm still undecided over which region to go for. Probably region 1.
     
  10. stevegreen

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    Where did you see that one Rambo John J?

    It appeals more than having book ends to be honest!
     
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    These are the R2 links from Play. R1 are in there too if you search. They are listed as the 'Directors Cut' (no bookends) and 'Collectors Box Set' (with bookends).

    No Bookends


    With Bookends


    I will probably got for the 2-disc set in August but cant decide which of the later ones to go for. Prorbaly wait and see what quality the bookends are before deciding if they are worth the extra.
     
  12. rauer

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    We must have different "Plays" since the only R1 versions I find there are the August widescreen and fullframe 2 DVD versions ;)
     
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    Well, i've copped out and decided to cancel my order at Play.com and plump for the 2 disc release in August rather than wait for the 4 disc set to come out.

    I've ordered it from EzyDVD as they always give excellent service.
     
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    HI,

    At the moment, there are to be three versions of the Director's Cut of LOTR:

    - the R1 version, with just the four discs, plus a bonus 5th disc containing the National Geographic documentary.
    - the same R1 version as above, but with bookends
    - an R4 version with just the four discs and bookends (The NG documentary, has not been given distribution rights to Australia and New Zealand, as far as I know.)
    - a possible R2 version with the four discs, plus bonus 5th disc, and
    - a possible R2 version as above, but also including the bookends.

    The problem at the moment, is that under BBFC guidelines, the UK R2 version containing the extra footage, would have to be rated no higher than a "PG". If it goes into "12", "15" or even "18" ratings, then it won't be allowed to be released. The reason being that the BBFC no longer allow two different versions of the same movie to be in existance.

    As such, and bearing in mind the extra footage will probably contain something that will increase the rating to at least a "12", either the Director's Cut will be censored to retain a "PG" rating, or will simply not get a UK release for at least two to three years, when the original two-disc version could be deleted, and then the four-disc version be submitted for uncut classification.

    Thus, I would go for the R1 or R4 version. As for the bookends, unless you're really desperate for them, I think people may as well simply stick to the four or five-disc editions. Also, expect the R2 version to be expensive in comparison to an R1 or R4 version, and to have lousy packaging and chapter stops (which is a frequent occurance with any Entertainment In Video DVD release)!

    With this film, I don't think there should be any major noticeable difference between the PAL and NTSC versions, unless you have really high-spec, top-end equipment and a gigantic screen on which to compare the two.


    Hence, I think the R1 version, with or without the bookends, will be the one to go for - overall. However, this is only my opinion.

    Pooch
     
  16. rauer

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    Thanks, PoochJD! That's exactly the kind of a thorough answer I was hoping for. Where do you find the info of the R2 Gift Set (I'm fixated to this term as it's the first I read..) containing the fifth DVD? As I've stated above, according to the data I've found, the R2 GS's supposed to only contain 4 DVD's.

    Cheers.
     
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    All this talk of the longer cut being higher rated is off the mark.

    The director has stated (I forget where) that all you get is extra Shire, Rivendell and Lothlorien sequences and that the rating should be unchanged. The action sequences are not changed at all.

    There is no extra gore.
     
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    Hi Rauer,

    Glad my post was of use to you. I get my information from reading websites, magazines, advertisements, leaflets, etc, and then sift the proverbial wheat from the chaff, to work out what is likely to be more believable, and what is likely to be total arse!

    As for the extra footage being more or less graphic, I haven't read anything that has been concrete, so until the "Director's Cut" gets passed onto the BBFC, for classification, then it would be unfair of me to comment on its content. However, if there is even the slightest chance that the certificate will be increased to a "12" or higher classification, then there will effectively be NO Region 2 "Director's Cut" version released in the UK.

    As such, I think it is best to stick to the R1 versions, where no such problems will exist, and you may even be able to get hold of the DVD sets earlier than any UK release.

    Pooch
     
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    This is not completely accurate. There will be 'more gore' (Peter Jackson's own words) in the extra footage for the battle of Ahmon Hen (sp?) which is the battle at the end.
     
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    What is Lotr
     
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    Surely you jest - but just in case, Lord of the Rings
     
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    The BBFC's web site is sying that they passes the extended cut film uncut as a PG certificate at 218m44s.

    Dont know how this compares to other regions, but looks like no more gore.
     
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    Apparently the region two version will NOT contain the fifth disk with the documentary on it. Also may not contain bookends or collectors cards as whilst they have definitely been confirmed in the USA and Canada, EIV who are releasing it in this country will not confirm as they are undecided.
    So basically a lot of these sights who are accepting pre-orders for the region 2 version may be advertising features which will not be included.
    This settles it for me - I am going for region ONE.
     
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    Guys, am I missing something, I cannot find anything about a R1 Director's Cut??? I have the R2 on order from Play247, but would probably go for the R1 if I could find it. . . . . . .

    Ian.
     
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    do a search for "Lord of the rings" on here and you'll find where you can buy all the different R1 releases.

    Hope this helps,
    marc :)
     

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