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Where to buy in wall speaker terminals

Discussion in 'Home Cinema Building DIY' started by iclarke, Sep 19, 2004.

  1. iclarke

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    I'm finally (after a year of saving and thinking about it) in the process of burying speaker cables in my plasterboard walls / behind the skirting and basically I'm not sure how to actually terminate the cables. The bast way I can think of is some kind of wall box (I have seen some examples in the forums) but I can't find anywhere that actually sells them. I plan to use 3 KEF 'eggs' as the rear speakers in a 6.1 set-up so will need something with 3 pairs of terminals on it. Any ideas ? Is this even a good thing to do or am I going to be degrading the sound quality ? Just seems like having the cables come straight out of the wall will look messy.

    Many thanks in advance.

    Ian.
     
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    hi mate,ive just done the same thing while redecorating although I just had cables straight out of wall behind the speaker brackets. Im not to sure about the quality but have always been of the opinion to have as few a conections in the system as possible as there is less chance of interference. If you look at Keene electronics (sorry dont have a link but if you just google Keene youll find it) they have them in there and there not very expensive.Ive bought loads from them and am happy to recomend them :thumbsup:

    hope that helps
     
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    sorry forgot to add Keene will make the plates to your spec if they dont stock them anyway
     
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    if they are for the behind speaker positions i would not use plates, large and unsightly, but gromets are available for a neater look.
     
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    There is a guy that sells his own hand made plates on ebay.
    I use these in my cinema throughout and they look great (even though they are hidden behind the speakers of course!)
     
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    KEF Eggs come with their own wall bracket and this bracket has a hole in it for the cable to feed through to the binding posts. I have just wall mounted 5 of them and by far the neatest way is to have the cable coming straight out of the wall - through the hole in the bracket and to the posts. That may not suit any speaker upgrade you do in the future though.......?
     
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    Wall plate speaker terminals:

    The electronics catalogues (online as well) sell these wall plates as well - i bought some from CPC (formerly Farnell) and they are fine. Or you could do it yourself - these same suppliers do all sorts of binding posts and sockets. Match an existing blanking (ie, light switch & elec socket blanks) plate with a usable rear surface (some have bracing that gets in the way) to match you're present wall plates shape and finish if you wish.

    Plasterboard:

    Some people have no problems with the wiring sliding down the back of the plasterboard, but generally its the plasterboard side of things thats more of a mess and a hassle (depending on your walls contruction - dot dab, stub part, etc). If the cable gets stuck part way down towards the skirting, chances are its hit a horizontal stud and will need bedding through the plaster surface to get past it.

    Plastering:

    Be prepared to practice you're plastering, and if you haven't had that fun before - dont use the tube stuff on this scale (unles you only have a vey small area to fill), prepare the surface with watered down uPVA (1 in10 if i remember right), this allows sanding to a flat edge later on, otherwise it might keep cracking away at the outside edge as you sand, leaving a broken edge. Then use fastset or a similiar product for easy sanding and a nice finish. Not that i've had plenty of practice after just spending 12 months gutting and re-finishing a flat built in the 1800's or anything... ;-)

    I've still got all this to do on my new build house - joy...

    Mark.
     
  8. iclarke

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    Thatks for the info. guys, I think I'm going to give the wall plates a miss and just have the cables come out the wall with some kind of grommet (any suggestions).

    Cheers Ian.
     
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    I can't find them on ebay
     
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    cheers for the link - I've just asked if he'll do a 5 channel faceplate :)
     
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    Ha! moviemike, I just asked him that too... and then read your post. Oops!
    Did he get back to you?
    I am in the process of channelling the walls for my cables. Am going to have the wires coming out of the walls at the speaker ends (my little Orb satellites won't hide a wall panel and it will help keep the sound quality up)
    I will have a 5 speaker panel at the amp end though to keep it all organised back there and so if I sell/ rent my flat out the next occupants will have a clue which wire is which.
     
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    Nah, not got back to me yet (Boo!). I've checked out a couple of places and they all seem to retail for about £40. I'm gonna just have a load of wires coming out of the wall at the amp end for now.
     
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    Well he replied to me, he is asking the people he gets them from if they can do it so maybe our combined queries convinced him there is a demand. Lets face it if they are the same price points as his other ones and everyone else is £40 he should clean up. I will keep you posted.
     
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    The QED wall sockets from hificables look really nice. A bit better looking quality than some others (hard to see detail from photo's tho - enlarge pic doesn't seem to work).

    The white ebay ones are the plates from farnell/CPC (i've got some of these - exactly the same) - so save yourself the money and buy them from the source www.cpc.co.uk.

    Cheers, Mark.
     
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    QED WM11 i think the are use hamilton SYSTEM 45 which allows for different finishes, white, brass, chrome etc i can put you in touch with some where with stock and probably a decent price guys
     

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