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Discussion in 'Home Cinema Speakers' started by digisocialist, Dec 3, 2004.

  1. digisocialist

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    OK, a bit of a general question but when you buy speakers from a Hi-Fi shop I would assume you get brand new, boxed, untouched, straight from the factory set...or am I mistaken? Reason I ask relates to some comments made by a couple of retailers I have visited, which have related to shifting kit which has been stood on display for longer than they would like. I'm particularly keen to ensure that if/when I order my Castles I am getting a set who's hands they last saw were the craftsman that made them and not 'Joe Bloggs' Kid's' on a Saturday afternoon! It may seem an odd point to make (and somewhat pedantic), but I'm a bit of a perfectionist and would not be happy to recieve some speakers that had been put back in their boxes by the retailer...however 'new' they looked.

    It's awkward because many retailers simply have to shift the stock they have on display, afterall it's thousands of pounds worth... and in many cases they will only order small quantities of one particular model to ensure they can sell it on.

    Experiences and thoughts.....
     
  2. Astaroth

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    If they are sold as new then they should still be in the factory sealed box. If they have been used for demonstrations (or display purposes) they should be sold as ex-demo and generally will have a price reduction.

    Most the retailers that I have dealt with in the past have not had any issues with confirming that they are factory sealed and have been given the option of waiting for a new unopened box to be ordered in (only a couple of days wait).

    At the end of the day you are the customer and so if one shop isnt willing to accomodate your requests you can be sure there will be at least a few more shops that are willing to take your money away from their competition
     
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    I quite agree with astaroth but don`t underestimatge the value of a healthy discount on an absolutely mint set of speakers that a specialist shop has carefully run in, using a variety of music, on the end of high-quality amplification and cabling.
     
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    Whenever I have bought speakers (or most other AV gear for that matter) from a dedicated dealer (ie not Dixons) then the product has either been shipped direct from the distributor or perhaps via the shop as the shop tend to only have their demo item and don't have stock on a shelf. Therefore I have always had unopened boxes unless they have been opened to put cables in or do a multiregion hack on a DVD player which I expected and am quite happy with.

    Mark.
     
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    I have generally had the same experience as MarkE19. It depends on where you are purchasing your speakers from.
     
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    4 out of 5 speakers are ex demo

    rears were £90

    fronts were £100 cheaper but the first person to demo them was me!
     
  7. digisocialist

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    MartinImber - The Castles are so nice that I would want nothing less than straight from the workshop. I'm set on the Compact Sub Sat System, very nice for their size and will upgrade to a 7.1 system later next year; probably with a pair of Richmonds or Durhams... can't accomodate Floorstanders (just yet) and will use these for 2 channel stereo.
     
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    I don't quite see your problem. Tell the dealer you want a new set and they will order them in. If you don't trust them check the boxes when you collect them. I have always received unopened 'new' kit from the dealers I used.

    Why also are you set on the compact system, a matched AV set and then going to add in some non-matching speakers from the Classic range?
     
  9. digisocialist

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    Avanzato - I didn't see there to be a 'problem' as such in buying speakers, rather it was a question I sought clarity on. I'm sure you have a good point regarding the upgrade route on the Castles and I'd welcome any suggestions you might have so that I can make a more informed choice. The idea of adding in some slightly larger speakers is purely something to satisfy an aspirational desire I have to get some 'bigger' speakers at a later stage. In fact, I initially thought I was going to get 2 bookshelf speakers from the Classic range as fronts and the Keep 2 as the centre with the Compacts only serving as rears.... that was until I heard the Compact system and got the WOW factor. I am inexperienced in the world of AV (which I suppose is evident) and therefore have preconcieved ideas about what I want as opposed to what I 'need'.

    Castle do marry the Stirling, Pembroke and Bastion with the Compacts on their website, so I supposed upgrading to 7.1 system would allow me to integrate with any of the speakers from their classic range. Unless there is something particular about the Richmonds & Durhams which means they are not balanced with their Compacts.
     
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    When I was retailing we always opened everything to check that all was working correctly, nothing was damaged and that all accessories were present, so when the customer took his purchase home they werent dissapointed. If anything had been put on the shelf the customer always got a discount. It also helped us to get to know the machines so when customers asked questions we usually had the answers.
     
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    As the Compacts have the WOW factor you've answered your own question, ultimately it's the sound that counts. The upgrade for the Compacts I was recommened was to get two more centres and use them for the left/right speakers. You can buy them instead of the standard speakers at the begining or later on to expand the system. The dealer I was at didn't have an extra set in stock so I can't say how much differnce it would make.

    My experience of the mix 'n' match Castle systems was though they had similar tone to each other they didn't match well enough for me. Perhaps if I'd tried every combination there would have been a set that did. I think you should trust your ears so get the dealer to setup and run through several castle combinations to decide if they match or not.
     

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