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When Worlds collide: The dedicated living room cinema (Updated Dec 2018)

KelvinS1965

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Electric curtain track - sweet!
I thought it would be a nice touch as the main curtains are silk so they won't mark so easily if remote controlled.

This news will please @chienmetallique after his earlier comments: I've decided to add the two Devore side curtains to the electric track order as well. (I'll send him my bank details for the payment transfer ;) ). Just waiting on a reply about whether their timer operates on more than one curtain track as I don't want to buy 4 timers at £40 each. I thought it would be nice to at least have them set to open each morning.

It means yet another remote though, so I want to remove the Screwfix LED strip light remote (or at least put it a drawer for backup) so the front and rear pelmet strip lights will be changed to Philips Hue. These can then be tied in with Harmony activities, since we tend not to use the side strip lights very much (I have an Alexa command to put on all lighting if we want them on).

The thing is that Alexa is fun to use at first, but not very reliable, so it gets frustrating: At least she seems to understand my 'turn off all lighting' command as we go to bed and this just fades down various strip lights over 20 seconds as we walk out of the room.

Control4 or similar would be fantastic, but I have to draw the line somewhere...
 

Jag of the Bailey

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Control4 or similar would be fantastic, but I have to draw the line somewhere...
We never draw the line, never! Control 4 is the way to go and I know someone who'll be doing all that Jazz shortly.

Regarding the electric curtains, good idea. I had a set of black velvets running for a good while during generation 2 of the Doghouse refit across electric tracks. Click a button and it opened. Everything was on a macro. The downside? A punter visited and told me that the curtains opening to reveal the screen made the room look like a crematorium. He laughed and said he expected to see a coffin on a set of rollers. I buried the bast***d after that comment then ripped the curtains off the track. That was it. Similarly and another nasty comment I heard was from another lawyer who once told me at court that my single button tapered herringbone suit had me looking like a 1970's porn star. You can see I'm sensitive and still not over these comments.

As I'm working in here now I've just found my huge and very heavy set of black velvet curtains. Now, where's that lighter of mine.
 

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KelvinS1965

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Yeah; maybe something for the sequel; "After worlds collide". :D

70's porn star Jag...how rude; I'd have put you closer to 40. ;)
 

KelvinS1965

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No, these aren't controllable via Z wave. As I posted a bit further back, that option was £1,500 for two curtain tracks, whereas this is £600 for all 4. I can live with that, or £640 if one timer will run them all.

I don't want to go down a rabbit hole of building Raspberry Pii boxes as that seems to be the DIY option if I really want to link it with Hue/Harmony.
 

BriD

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No, these aren't controllable via Z wave. As I posted a bit further back, that option was £1,500 for two curtain tracks, whereas this is £600 for all 4. I can live with that, or £640 if one timer will run them all.

I don't want to go down a rabbit hole of building Raspberry Pii boxes as that seems to be the DIY option if I really want to link it with Hue/Harmony.
Makes sense. Not a huge deal as you say.

Could I be a pain and ask which curtain tracks you're using?
 

KelvinS1965

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They are these ones, which seem to come up all over the web. Not very easy to assemble due to poor instructions, but I guess I'l have the idea by the time I reach the 4th one. :)

90cm - 210 cm Remote Control Electric Curtain Tracks! Free and Fast Delivery! | eBay

There are longer ones too, which I'll use for the Devore and the patio door.

I had a reply that I need a timer for each curtain, so I'll give that a miss.

I've ordered the 4 curtain tracks with the remote. I should be able to get them up before the main curtains are ready. :)
 

KelvinS1965

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I got the screw holes and joints filled and sanded on the pelmet so it's ready for paint. We'll need a few dust sheets to cover things up (I sanded with the hoover nozzle in one hand and a small piece of sandpaper in the other to minimise dust :rolleyes:). I'm really pleased with how it's worked out as it now looks like a single piece of plaster. Shame I didn't get it done earlier on as this isn't the right order to do things...:blush:

Just thinking on how to do the projector 'door' so that both TV lifts go in the right direction from a single button press. I may have to attach a small piece of white fabric to the bottom of the 'door' so it will brush past the edge of the coving and extend the length of the door to hide the projector lens from view when shut. It's in my head, I just need to get it into wood and plasterboard, etc. :D
 

KelvinS1965

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That seems to be the problem with some electrically operated items: My blinds aren't exactly silent and the TV lift(s) have a certain 'whine' to them. The trick is to stagger the actions as having them all going together spoils the effect a bit with the noise.

I changed over to normal lamp on my X500 last week and run another calibration with peak white at around 13fL as it was a little low on Eco lamp, even with the aperture fully open. I also discovered a setting in one of the menus on my X500 for 'environment' which I have now switched off (no idea when it got turned on, but it was having a negative effect on the calibration process). I got really good results for the colour gamut in Chromapure (all dEs less than 1.5, with 93% under 1.0dE), so it was worth the recalibration with these setting changes. The image has more punch to it and the black levels is still outstanding...it'll only look better with the Devore up of course.

We watched 'The Dressmaker' last night, which my OH had wanted to see, though I enjoyed it myself too. Followed it up with 'Bad Company at Wembley' which was recorded in 2010 and had great sound, really putting us in the audience and solid thumping bass. I had to rewind and join in with 'Can't get enough of your love' with my hidden guitar cab putting my playing up on the screen with the rest of the band. :)

Just off to a family party shortly, so nothing getting done today.
 

KelvinS1965

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I thought it was Eco and Normal, but I think you're right. Whatever, it's the higher brightness lamp setting with the aperture closed back to give me my (new) reference lux level of 145 Lux, which equates to about 13fL off the screen. I figure that it's a lot cheaper than buying an X7000 just yet. ;) Not that I'm likely to get anywhere near wearing the lamp out, even at the higher setting as I usually upgrade long before then...

I've seen a thread in the projector section about a similar idea to mine with the black curtains each side of the screen and a clever arrangement to pull black velvet across the ceiling too. I would like to try to do something similar with my ceiling if I can figure it out, even if it doesn't come out as far as the side curtains. A metre of Devore across the ceiling would still help with contrast I'm sure.
 

markymiles

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Try and make it something that's easy to copy ;)
 

Harkon321

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Just read this from start to finish. The graphs went over my heads a bit, but the room itself is a real inspiration.
 

KelvinS1965

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Try and make it something that's easy to copy ;)
I'm interested in trying to make it easy for me to put up, so hopefully that should help to copy too. :)

Just read this from start to finish. The graphs went over my heads a bit, but the room itself is a real inspiration.
Thanks Harkon, I'll do a separate thread when it's all finished, just with nice photos/ maybe a video as I guess not everyone wants to look at graphs. That's a nice Lotus Harkon; I don't suppose that's at Anglesey track is it? I went round there a few times in my friend's VX220 at their annual trackday.

Just had my neighbour in as we were chatting when I got out of my car and I had time to spare. He seemed to like it, though I didn't do a demo except of the TV lift. At least he can't hear the bass as he's over the road so should be far enough away from the subs. :) I think I need to consider timer activated blinds for the front window though as he'd noticed the screen when he was walking his dog one evening...
 
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Harkon321

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It actually is a VX220, sadly sold about 12 months ago as it wasn't getting the use I wanted. Never managed to get to Anglesey, did want to mind you. Think that picture is from Blyton Park, but did Silvertone, Donnington and Croft in my ownership.

I know what you mean about the blinds, I always shut mine before firing up the projector, I'm paranoid someone will see and taking a liking to it.
 

KelvinS1965

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Oh yes, I can see it now you've told me it's a VX...you know how huffy the Lotus owners get though if you mix them up ;) My friend's VX is sat on his drive as he can't start it due to some immobiliser fault than seems to have confounded every repair attempt.

I'm a bit wary of inviting unwanted visitors, but had hoped that these days a 50" LCD TV isn't anything special to warrant a visit. I do need to get the screen covers sorted out though to make it less obvious that I have a projector though. It's a shame to have to think this way, but better to be safe than sorry I guess...
 

BriD

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Oh yes, I can see it now you've told me it's a VX...you know how huffy the Lotus owners get though if you mix them up ;) My friend's VX is sat on his drive as he can't start it due to some immobiliser fault than seems to have confounded every repair attempt.

I'm a bit wary of inviting unwanted visitors, but had hoped that these days a 50" LCD TV isn't anything special to warrant a visit. I do need to get the screen covers sorted out though to make it less obvious that I have a projector though. It's a shame to have to think this way, but better to be safe than sorry I guess...
Off topic: Hah.. nah, a VX is as much of a Lotus as an Elise (and I have an Elise). I'll dig out the VX wiring diagran and have a look. I've removed the immobilisers in a load of race Elises, can't be that different.

On topic: this thread is really making me want to fit a projector. I just can't get my head around screen masking. What are you doing for that? (I may have missed it).
 

KelvinS1965

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Thanks BriD. It's something to do with the ECU not 'talking' to the ignition key/barrel. He's had a few people out to look at it including a locksmith, but it's just sat there now from what I know: He doesn't live near me, so we only meet up a couple of times a year.

For screen masking it's easier for me: Most films I watch are 2.40:1 so they fit the screen perfectly. For 1.85:1 content I will make up some side masking panels that will hang on the top edge of the screen, using some of the Devore and a simple wood frame (like a mini screen/canvas). I think I should be able to hide them in the bottom part of the screen cover so they will be handy for the (rarer) occasions I need them.

In other news; the electric curtain tracks have arrived so I'm having a play around with them tonight as my OH is away on business so I don't have any Valentines dinner to worry about (at least tonight anyway). ;)
 

AidenL

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I run Control4 and it is fantastic. Does everything. Our lighting, CCTV, Heating, Hi Rez music, audio and video plus capable of so much more.

We supply/install several control systems from Control4, URC and RTI.
I have Control4 and have had a lot of issues, but it may have been down to my programmer.
 

KelvinS1965

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It took a bit longer than I thought to rejig the electric track so that it just pulls from one end rather than two curtains that meet in the middle. I think I've got it right, but I'll get the OH to check tomorrow night. I will also have to take some of the glides off as the curtain won't retract far enough as it stands (I want it to go back past the screen when not in use).

Here is a little video I made, white tissue instead of Devore (doesn't help with image quality I'm sure ;) ):

 

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