When does a New Year start

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  1. Logo Hater

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    For years my wife and I have had a difference of opinion as when a New Year actually starts.

    I have always maintained that as Big Ben strikes its first bell at the stroke of midnight, that is when it starts. However my wife has always maintained that it starts at the last stroke of the twelve strokes. She has found quite a few of her acquaintances who are in agreement with her.

    Does anyone know for certain which one of us is right and is there anywhere on the internet which will confirm or deny what I am saying. I have done a search on Google but can't find anywhere that will give me the conformation I need or the proof that she is right.

    I am totally:confused: :confused: :confused:
     
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    not sure , but my vote is with your wife on this one :)


    p.s do you like my logo????:)
     
  3. GBDG1

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    Should be the first shouldn't it as the new year starts at 1 second past midnight
     
  4. swanny78

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    Wifes right im afraid, the last chime coincides with exaxt minuite change. Ie the bells dont start ringing exacatly on midnight but a few seconds before so the last chime marks midnight
     
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    No, sorry you are wrong, the first ring is on the stroke of midnight, that is an absolute certainty.
     
  6. zz101

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    Nope - you are wrong the last bong is the stroke of midnight.
     
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    I think some of you must be confusing it with the speaking clock, who says "at the third stroke, the time will be", thereby giving a short preview of the actual time.
     
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    New year starts when it goes 00:00:01 (HH:MM:SS), on the first stoke of the bell by big ben.
     
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    I've always understood it to be the first stroke as well. It tends to bong as my watch changes to midnight.
     
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    I don't think that's right - when it says 00:00:01 that means the first second of the day has completed. 00:00:00 is the start of the first second of the day, and 23:59:59 is the start of the last second. (00:00:00.5 would be halfway through the first second of the day/year).

    P.S. IMO First bong = midnight (give or take a second)
     
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    imightbewrong is right! :rotfl:
     
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    As a mobile DJ with 25+ years experience of New Years' festivities, I can categorically state that it is the first 'bong' that denotes the new hour.

    The lead-up chimes take exactly 28 seconds.

    The twelve 'bongs' take around a minute to play out.

    If anyone wants absolute timings I'll get my jingle and stopwatch out :D
     
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    You are correct, the first, not last, chime of any clock denotes the hour, apart from the speaking clock.
     
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    So not any clock then?

    My firm built big ben and its def the last bong - I know my bongs.
     
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    You can hear the same thing on the six o' clock news on Radio 4 every evening. You get a short intro and then the six bongs to mark the hour. The first of these bongs marks six o clock. If you think about it it would be really confusing if you used the last bong. Each chime would have to start earlier and earlier as it got later for the last bong to be able to mark the hour.

    Incidentally in the army we avoid 24.00 and 0.00 for midnight. If I said I'll meet you at midnight on the eleventh do I mean midnight at the start of the day or the end? To avoid confusion we never use midnight but would either use 0.01 (a minute past midnight at the start of the 11th) or 23.59 (a minute before the end of the day on the eleventh).
     
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    obviously not!!

    from the link posted earlier:

    "the first stroke of the hour bell should register the time, correct to within one second per day, and furthermore that it should telegraph its performance twice a day to Greenwich Observatory, where a record would be kept."
     
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    First Bong

    No doubt

    Check Facts
     
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    I've just checked the specs at work - its def the last bong - the first 11 are just pratice bongs.
     
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    I posed the question to Sony MD he tells me "It starts when we say it starts" :rotfl:
     
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    Its the first bong , always has been always will be.
     
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    Sadly, having read this I am now interested. :D

    Do you really have information to support this claim?
     
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    I know the bloke that rings the bell - he does the first 11 to get up to speed to make sure the final bong is on time.
     
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    This is a wind up, surely. :rolleyes:

    Who do you work for, btw?
     
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    Ben.
     
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    If the last bong denotes the hour being chimed, then that would imply that the sequence of bongs must start at a different period prior to the hour for each hour. Ie if it takes 1 second to do a bong, the sequence must start 12 seconds before midnight, but only 11 seconds before 11pm, 10 seconds before 10pm and so on.

    I don't believe that Big Ben (or any other mechanical chiming clock for that matter) is that complex in its operation.

    IMO, the hour begins on the first chime.
     
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    Edited: Dupe
     
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    You're all raving bongers.

    Obviously it's the first bong and the others just tell you what the time is.
     

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