I have a Sony STRDB870 and I find that I have to turn right hand down so that the display reads - 45db to get it really firing. It is perfectly good quieter than that but whats the average volume people here listen at, considering the range of recievers/amps under discussion day to day. Any louder than say -40db and things start to get BLOODY loud. However this can of course depend on the soundtrack at hand. Captain Benefit.