What's the best DVD player sound/picture

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  1. Gary Palmer

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    What is the very best player for sound (via off-board processor) and picture ? Don't care about other functions or features (e.g. SACD, DVD-A etc)

    Cheers<br />Gary
     
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    Well that depends on your price range! You can spend upto £4,000 on a DVD Player (Tag)! So whats your price range?
     
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    There isn't a significant of difference between the lowest and highest price "mainstream" models.

    As long as you can get RGB and/or component video output (assuming your tv takes it) and you get the features you want, you should be happy.
     
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    Doubledoom,

    I would argue that, personally i think there is a very large difference! A good example being that costly alternatives often have prog scan which cheap models definitely do not....anyone can see the difference between the prog scan signal and an interlaced one!

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    From a picture point of view there are noticeable differences between players. I'm sure some of the TAG DVD32r owners will be along to mention how much better the picture looks when fed to their TV's let alone projectors etc.

    Indeed, Garry himself has commented on the noticeable audio and picture difference between his present DVD player and the Skyworth he tried.

    From a sound point of view there are even bigger differences. Go listen to a DVD using an av32R with a Denon 1500 as transport, then an Arcam DV88, then a sync linked DVD32r. You should hear obvious improvements at every step. Even using a different processor I think you'd get the same results only the end result would not be as good.

    Of course, ultimately, you need to check these differences out for yourslef to work out whether, 1: You can notice them and you feel the y are significant<br />2: Whether the extra costs justify the difference.

    Part two is, of course, different for everyone!

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  6. Gary Palmer

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    OK, I admit I deliberately left it open-ended. I was interested to see what people would suggest.

    I guess my budget is up to £1,000(Gordon's comments taken well and truly on board).

    I am a little concerned about the problems folk seem to have had with the Arcam players.

    My short-list so far is the Pioneer 737 or the Arcam Diva.

    Any other suggestions ? Gordon, in terms of sound how does the Arcam FMJ compare to these two models ?

    A really good Svideo output would be nice for day-to-day viewing...

    Cheers<br />Gary
     
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    Toshiba 900E, Sony 9000ES.

    Toshiba are replacing the 900E with the 910E soon and Pioneer are also releasing the Pioneer 747!

    I've seen the Toshiba 900E in action (borrowed my friends) and i could'nt believe my eyes when it was hooked up to my Sony TV. The Toshiba 900E crapped all over my Pioneer 626D....well it would because its 3 times the price! <img src="smile.gif" border="0">
     
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    i did say mainstream players.
     
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    The early Arcam DVD players had problems as they had three different sources of mechs I think. Along with three different types of control software for them....or something like that.

    There was also the drop out problem some folk had with DTS material. We have sold LOTS of these devices. Every one with a fault was swapped for new immediately. We haven't had any faulty DV88's since the FMJ27 came out. They have common firmware. We've sold a fair few of these too and the only problem we had with one was the front drawer wasn't a good cosmetic fit. It would have been OK for most folk but Arcam replaced it immediately too. I know that there's one chap on the forum who has now given up on Arcam but I think he is the exception.

    From a picture point of view I have now compared several DV88's and FMJ27's being fed direct to the Panasonic Plasma in the shop, via component. I could see no difference between them using test patterns or programme material. Of course, using the progressive output is a different matter altogether. Using a projector may also show up differences which I couldn't see on the plasma.

    There is an audible difference between FMJ and Diva units even just using the digital outputs. Presumably due to the superior power supplies etc. in FMJ. If you did the dem with CD's and used their internal DACS the FMJ is substantially better than a DV88. I think that a mag has just doen this dem and declared there's no difference. Well, either they got a broken FMJ27 or they are deaf!

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    Hi Gordon,

    You've hit the nail on the head.

    "I could see no difference between them using test patterns or programme material"

    Big price difference between FMJ and DV88 yet picture quality is pretty much the same.

    "There is an audible difference between FMJ and Diva units even just using the digital outputs. Presumably due to the superior power supplies etc. in FMJ. If you did the dem with CD's and used their internal DACS the FMJ is substantially better than a DV88."

    I use a Lexion MC-1 so the audio connection is always digital - don't need the players DACs. What could I expect to hear as a difference between the FMJ and DV88 via digital ?

    Much appreciate the feedback. I want to buy a decent DVD but don't want to pay huge amounts if I'm not going to get much benefit.

    Cheers<br />Gary
     
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    I have an FMJ, and think its currently the best all round player on the market... however, if you cant make use of the progessive scan, then the DV88 is the one to go for in my opinion... should even yet enought change form £1000 to buy a cable or two ;o)
     
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    As Gareth mentioned, Pioneer are releasing the 747.

    Pioneer DV747A
    The Worlds first DVD-Audio and SACD Combo deck.

    FEATURES
    108MHz / 12-bit video DAC
    DVD-A, DVD-Video, Multi-channel SACD, MP3, CD-R, CD-RW, DVD-R & DVD-RW ready
    Hi-bit and Legato PRO audio processing
    MP3 playback with on-screen navigator
    2x Scart (RGB Compatable)
    CD-R/RW compatible
    Optical & Coaxial Digital outputs
    Plays NTSC discs as PAL60/NTSC

    I just noticed it at homecinemaheaven when I was looking for prices on some other things.

    WSquared

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    how does thr Arcam FMJ27 stack up against the similarly priced Onkyo 939?
     

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