Hi there I've got two V+ boxes on my current subscription, and like the service. I don't really like the menu system though, and I'm non-plussed by the Tivo version. Now I realise, from Googling, that people have used Nagravision decoders and such for nefarious purposes in the past. E.g. To get cable free. I'm not interested in that at all - I'd just like the nice clean menus of something like Windows Media Center, with the Virgin content. I also know that it's against their terms to connect an authorised device - which I'm not going to do. The questions is : I read somewhere that in most other European countries, you just call up the cable company with the key for your chosen set top box (be that a standalone box, or a PC card, the 'key' being associated with the CAM). So what's different about the UK system? Is there a technical limitation that means they can't have *legitimate* alternative cable decoders, and they just send out the card, or both the card and an associated CAM? I understand there'd be a support issue too. But maybe you could pay more, or opt out of support or whatever? The other possibility I considered is whether the 'official' boxes send back juicy usage stats, that other boxes wouldn't, and that's the real reason they don't want to let you use something else? Finally, I suppose there's the on-demand films - is that part of DVB-C, or is it an entirely proprietary protocol? Just to be clear, I'm not interested in breaking the law, just curious as to why it's not possible to use an alternative decoder, with a *legitimate* subscription. Is it for technical or business reasons essentially?