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What to replace damaged Quad 12Ls with? if anything??

Discussion in 'Home Cinema Speakers' started by sapgem, Sep 15, 2005.

  1. sapgem

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    The plastic bass driver domes on both of my Quad 12Ls have become deformed and generally finger-inprinted in a child related disaster.

    To my ears the mid range sound now seems rather muted and lacking the air there was before - though for casual listening the speakers remain fine. Clearly this damage is gonna need major expenditure to put right. The question is though, what to do?

    I am driving the speakers using a Quad 909. Is there now anything better out there than the Quad 12Ls that might qualify as an upgrade of my system? Any suggestions? The alternative is to either buy a new set of 12Ls and use the damaged set in a less serious role, or to get the bass drivers replaced (I'd imagine this might be very expensive!).

    And of course I will be sure to super-glue the guards on to the new speakers!
     
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    If you like the speakers, replace the driver and forget any DIY...

    A made it for a 11 years old Celestion, and only regretted not doing it earlier...
     
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    Replacing the drivers should be a DIY job. Remove one to see if the wires are connected by spades or solder. If spades, it's a doddle. If solder, a bit more difficult but not that hard.

    Quad should be able to supply you with replacement drivers, and it should work out a fair bit cheaper than buying new speakers.

    I had a similar problem with a Tannoy tweeter, and it was an easy job to replace.
     
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    Replacing the drivers is definitely a good option. Get in touch with Quad and see what they say, your dealer may be able to help too. :)
     
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    Yes, you can do it, I did, ultra easy.

    By not going to any kind of DIY, I meant glueing drivers... :cool:
     
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    In the £500-£1000 range:

    Sonus Faber Concerto
    Dynaudio 52SE
    Pro-Ac tablette reference 8 sigs
    PMC DB1+
    Kef QX1
    Aurum Cantus Leisure 3se (or 5)
    Ruark Sabre

    for starters..........

    DT
     
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    Thanks for the help guys. Looks like replacing them is the best option (about £60 per speaker - cheaper than I thought it would be). Looks like spades rather than solder luckily.

    Shame in a (twisted) way, I was kinda looking forward to auditioning some new speakers - maybe I'll find an excuse that'll wash next year. Thanks for the suggestions Dynamic Turtle, I will put them on them on my audition wish list.
     
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    If only one speaker is damaged, replace only one.
    After a few days they will sound the same (my experience)...
     
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    The child in question managed to damage both, almost identically. Apparently the bass dome made a satisfying crinkle noise when squeezed in.
     
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    And they want to ban the smacking of children :rolleyes: ......
     
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    Well... let's see it this way... so young and allready managed to have a good stereo balanced... damage. :devil: :D
     
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    I take it the cost will be coming out of their pocket money?

    Or if they're not your kids - their parents will be making a "contribution"!
     
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    Apparently I wasn't specific enough in my 'don't touch' instructions. And kids should be encouraged to explore.. (or so I'm told unsympathetically)

    But anyway, I've secretly deducted the money from the Christmas 2005 budget (in my head that is, as we don't have any saved yet).
     
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    I guess it's your partner saying this? You could say: And kids should learn to
    treat possessions with respect :D.

    I would imagine that if the kids had trashed something expensive of their's they wouldn't be quite so tolerant;).

    T.
     
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    hi there, I went from the Quad 12L to the Quad 21L.

    The 21L's take the same space but sound much nicer.

    CaM
     
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    So right Timbo - when i fell into her car and dented it (and myself) i thought i'd never hear the end of it (yep.. its been that kind of year..)

    cameron, I do like the quad sound, so Quad 21Ls sound a good choice. Would good speaker stands for the 12Ls give the same effect though - given they have the same drivers (i believe)?
     
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    hi there, the 21L's sound better and look much better imho. They have more weight and bass and probably take up a little less space than speaker stands/12L. They are also harder to knock ;)

    I would keep the 12Ls, get the 21ls and the center L and then you have a surround sound quad package. I have this and it is great for movies as well.

    CaM
     
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    Hi Sapgem :hiya:

    If you are interested , I am selling my Quad 22L in B.E. Maple.
    They are 2 years old and in perfect condition.
    I am moving house next week - I am buying a sat + sub combo - WAF factor!!
    I am looking for £700 + p+p which would be approx £40, or pick-up from Central Scotland.
    I will let you have first refusal b4 putting them in the classified section

    Cheers

    Pebble
     
  19. sapgem

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    Very tempting Pebble, but I've decided to replace the drivers, as it turned out to be not too expensive. I will have to wait till late next year before I get the chance of any stereo upgrade. Good luck with the sale.
     
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    No problem
     

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