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What to buy? Need some recommendations

Discussion in 'Projectors, Screens & Video Processors' started by mars99, May 20, 2004.

  1. mars99

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    Hello everyone,

    I'm new to this, and I'm very interested in buying a projector, started doing some research and came out with the following list:

    1- Sony VPL-CX6.
    2- Sony VPL-HS3.
    3- Sony VPL-CS6.
    4- Panasonic PT-L500U.
    5- Panasonic PT-LC80U.
    6- Panasonic PT-LC56U.

    I'm looking for good Home Projector, mostly will be used for TV, some games, and DVD from time to time.
    So which one do you guys recommend?

    All above mentioned Projectors are LCD type, I've read about the DLP technology and was looking for one with DDR Chip, but didn't find any. Is't worth buying a DLP projector now, or go a head with LCD then couple of years later buy a DLP?

    TIA,
     
  2. Liam @ Prog AV

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    Of the list above only number 2 and 4 are suitable for Home Cinema (and 4 is better than two!!). In similar price range DLPs may not be the best option, but ones to look for are the inFocus X2 (basic cheap and cheerful but Faroudja processing and bright), Optoma H30, Philips Bogart Matchline (very good for the money IMO).

    For LCDs you should check out the upcoming Hitachi PJ-TX100, Epson EMP-TW200 and Sanyo PLV-Z2.

    HTH
     
  3. bobbetts

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    How different is the X2 over the X1? I had a quick look on the infocus website and the specs of each looked similar, if I remember the X2 was brighter.
     
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    Don't know yet cos I haven't seen one!!!! Spec is very similar, it's got DVI now (which is also RGB and Component input) and is 1500 ansi lumens (to X1s 1000). There's no published spec on the colour wheel so you can assume for now it's still 2 speed, 4 segment :thumbsdow . But for the price you're laughing really, latest Faroudja processing and bright enough to get your company to buy it for you for "presentation purposes"....

    Toshiba's MT200 should be along soon too, uses similar chassis to the X2 but running better firmware and more directed at Home Cinema use. I think it'll be locked to 848 x 480 resolution and priced much higher than the X2 though.
     
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    Hmmm...
    All my list has been changed now, thanks to Liam, it has been narrowed to the following two choices:
    1- Go with DLP tech. Infocus X2 at $999 price tag :) ( I wounder why it's not in the best recommended projectors for under $1500 in http://www.projectorcentral.com/recommended-home-theater-projectors.htm

    2- Go with LCD tech. and buy PT-L500U or PLV-Z2 LCD at $1,999.

    PT-L500U and PLV-Z2 are natively 16-9 Aspect ratio, would this effect my choice as I'm going to use the projector mainly for TV / Games purposes?

    TIA,
     
  6. bobbetts

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    As I understand it, it is possible to switch the X1 (and probably X2) to 16:9, so I don't think this should influence your decision too much.......someone please correct me if I am wrong.

    I had considered the LCD route, but the talk of dead pixels etc. put me off. DLP technology (according to two AV specialist shops....) is the best way to go for the most cinematic experience, although i am still trying to find a shop I can compare both LCD and DLP projectors that I'm interested in.

    By the way have you considered the optoma H30?
     
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    I'm pretty sure that the X2 uses the 848 x 600 DLP chip, so it can run at 800 x 600 4:3, and 848 x 480 16:9. Whatever the resolution is, it does have a widescreen mode!!
     
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    Mars, althought there is plenty of good advice to be had here I would suggest going to the http://www.avsforum.com/ as they are US based and will be able to help you that little bit more with the best deals around.

    Cheers
     
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    bobbetts,
    I dropped Optoma H30 due to the Rainbow effect problem and less color saturation, Which requires a DDR Chip to get over these two issues with the DLP projectors.
    In the other hand I favor InFocus X2 since it comes with a DDR DMD DLP chip that over come the rainbow & saturation problems, and in top of that it's only $999.
    SUN,
    I've done a good research on the Internet and went through many sites, I just need some advices from experienced people since I'm totally new to this field, and this gonna be my first projector :D .

    Even though I liked the PT-L500U & PLV-Z2 LCD features, I'm going for the Infocus X2 DLP projector, due to its appealing price, I would high appreciate if some one had experienced the X2 DLP can update us on this new projector.

    TIA
     
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    Have you seen any of these projectors Chris?? The DDR chip doesn't have that much relevance on the rainbow effect, the colour wheel does but even still if you're gonna see them you're gonna see them on - even a 5 speed, 8 segment colour wheel (with DDR chip!) let alone the X1's (and presumably the X2's) lowly 2X 4-segment offering
     
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    Hi mars99, the H30 does have a DDR DLP chip and as regards colour saturation it is every bit as good as comparable LCD projectors due to the RGBRGB colour wheel with no clear segment.
    This was an area where previously the crown rightly belonged to LCD but not anymore.

    The colour wheel is 2x to keep noise down but is effectively 4x as each revolution see's RGB twice.
    The main reason for the 4x colour wheel speed (a feature currently only found in more expensive DLP projectors) was to reduce or for most eliminate rainbows.

    I would highly recommend you demo this one, I'm totally blown away with mine.

    Regards, MikeD
     
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    This is what I'll do;

    Go and demo the X2 at a shop, if i didn't see the Rainbow effect, then I'll just buy it. If I saw the rainbow and if it was annouying then I go directly for the Panny AE500 LCD.

    So in short it's either Infocus X2 DLP without Rainbow or Panny AE500 LCD.

    Thank you guys for making my life easy and helping me buying my first projector.
     
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    Erm, I've not seen these two projectors in action (yet!!!!) but after reading user and pro reviews of them it seems that the H30 has a better colour wheel than the Infocus X2, so less rainbows.

    If there's anything going for the Infocus X2 over the H30 I'd say it's DVI-in, but that's about it. Personally I'd go for the H30 blind just off-spec and user reports, though after some dealings with Optoma over these past few days I'm not so sure. Their pre-sales service is such that we are now pursuing the manager, as I could have had a demo this weekend but Optoma have screwed it - very ANGRY :mad:
     
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    I totally agree with you, However, I always give the support criteria a high weight when I evaluate multiple devices, and since I don't have any close support center for the Optoma in my area, I would prefer going with a vendor who I know and has a service support center in my area.
     

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