What PVR? So much choice . .

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  1. Ross Kemp

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    Hi,

    I`m looking for a PVR but there`s quite alot of choice out there, Yeah I`ve searched, read various threads, checked specs and prices but I`m still none the wiser. I`ve been into the local independent who wants to sell me what he wants (Sony) and also tried the likes of Currys but I`m still not sure what make / model to go for.

    Needs to be easy to use.
    Will not be used too much, record, watch, delete.
    Quiet in operation.
    Approx. £150. could go a little more maybe.
    Go with Panasonic TXL 32 20sb.

    Thanks :)
     
  2. Ross Kemp

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    So, I`m trying to be decisive, how about the Humax 9300t?

    Would the FoxT2 be overkill for my needs, over budget too.
     
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    Hi

    It would seem silly to buy a PVR that couldn't get the HD channels, as if you don't get them now, you will in the not too distant future. Having a PVR that shows HD channels also future proofs the PVR as at some point standard definition channels will start to use the more efficient encoder which is currently only used for HD channels, and these will only be viewable with an HD PVR.

    The DigitalStream DHR8203U (around £160.00 on Amazon with 320G drive) is a very good PVR, based on the same hardware as the Humax FOX-T2, but without the more advanced networking and streaming, which means they are cheaper.

    Regards

    Phil
     
  4. Ross Kemp

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    Good point, thanks Phil.
     
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    The DigitalStream DHR8203U looks inviting.

    Any thoughts on a Panasonic DMR HW100?

    A little over budget but the sales are on . .
     
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    Hi.
    Check if it has advertising on the programme guide. Many Panasonic units do. The DigitalStream does not.
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    Regards, Iain.
     
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    Hi Iain, is that a good or bad thing?


    RK.
     
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    The advert that exists on Panasonic EPG's is extremely insulting to the consumer.
    It uses real estate on the screen that would be much better put for the real purpose of the EPG.

    However it is very easily ignored.
    I use Panasonic equipment all the time and to this day I do not know what is advertised there and I am determined to keep it that way.

    As irritating as it's presence is, other considerations regarding the comparative choices of equipment make the presence, or otherwise, of an advert irrelevant.

    The EPG is a functional tool - used only occasionally.
    The picture quality, reliability of function, reliability of hardware, and value for money are the factors that matter.
     
  9. PhilipL

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    Hi

    Yes it does seem to have the GuidePlus+ EPG, it's not a nice interface to use adverts or no adverts and you lose the TV picture when you view the guide. Also potentially that guide data my stop at some point as it doesn't use the normal Freeview EPG data.

    To the OP, the DigitalStream is what you should go for, don't even think about any others :hiya:

    Regards

    Phil
     
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    I often hear that said - although I am bewildered why users would want that intrusion. Each to their own.
    ...but about as likely as Freeview itself stopping. - Not likely.
    That is just too blatantly partisan.[ and unlike you Phil ] There are other well regarded units.
     
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    Hi

    GuidePlus+ is less safe than Freeview EPG data as it is a profit making company, they stop making a profit, they go bust, the data stops, it's happened before with similar third party supplied EPG data.

    Hardly, it fits the customer's wants and their budget almost exactly while providing HD over and above their initial request for features. If someone else can recommend something that fits the bill even more closely that is as well regarded as the DigitalStream then lets have it :hiya:

    Regards

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    I'm afraid I've a couple useless twin-tuner PVRs by DigiFusion. Useless in that they no longer have any EPG. It does happen. -- Regards, Iain.
     
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    Thanks to all for their input.

    I`m going to the shops tomorrow to have a closer look at what`s on offer.
     
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    If it is just for light use - why don't you look at purchasing the HDR-FOX T2-G Freeview HD Set Top box:
    Humax HD-FOXT2-G Freeview HD Set Top box (Grade A) - HUMAX UK Direct Sales Website

    and add a cheap hard drive for recording duties ... should save a few quid into the bargain.:smashin:
     
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    David, thanks but I wouldn`t even know how to add a hard drive.

    So it seems it`s down to 2 models.

    I can`t find a DigitalStream DHR8303U anywhere locally though at £159 at Currys (no stock) the price is right,

    The Panasonic DMRHW100 is down to £200 at Richersounds (35 miles away), tempting at that price, but £229 at Currys and £299 at my local independent.
     
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    Hi.
    You add a USB harddrive; just plugs in the back. No screwdrivers or anything like that required. Get a 2.5"/"portable" drive and it's a single USB wire.
    Note the HDFoxT2 only has a single tuner, the HDRFoxT2 has two. Yes, you save a bit, but lose a lot of flexibility. If you've a John Lewis nearby, you can click-n-collect the DigitalStream with the 500GB harddrive for £200.
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    Regards, Iain.
     
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    The Philips is likely to be Trouble with a capital T - bearing in mind that it was appallingly glitchy from the start and if those eBuyer ones are returns they are most unlikely to have had anything whatsoever done to them - except maybe switched on to ensure they get a picture. Much praise was heaped on HD picture quality, but it was downhill from there onwards.
     
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    I`ve opted for the DigitalStream, so thanks for all your comments not just here but on other threads I`ve been reading.

    I wanted to buy new and I really fancied the Panasonic, would`ve gone with the TV too and is a known brand to me but was another £70, just a bit too much over budget for what will be a little used machine. I`d never heard of DigitalStream before so was being a little wary. As much as I dislike using Currys, the price was right, but I always find their customer service lacking somewhat.


    Happy New Year !
     
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    Thanks for reporting back... and good luck with your machine.
     
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    When I bought refurbished laptops (2 at different times) from Currys I found their 24/7 telephone support quite useful. One of the laptops had a faulty power supply and it was replaced without quibble. But you shouldn't need them, you'll have the oh-so-helpful DigitalStream thread on here and the manufacturers/distributors (?) are very good, I understand :D
     
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    That`s the beauty of buying from a local Currys, if I have any problems and the item is not acceptable Currys can have the item back :smashin:
     
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    My initial thoughts - Perhaps I should`ve paid a bit more and bought the Panasonic.

    The DigitalStream seems cheap, certainly the remote is, it`s awful, rather small buttons too. Instructions are complicated. The usability seems over complicated for what should be a simple to use machine.
    I don`t think it`s easy to use, I managed to record something but took ages to find out how to play it back.
    Not really happy with the meun, guide etc.
    The price was reduced from £200 down to £160. It feels like a £75 item.

    Is the Panasonic better, worse or similar?
     
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    Hi

    I wouldn't exactly recommend the Panasonic if you are not happy with the guide, as they use an even worse interface in my opinion based on GuidePlus+. We have it on our TV, it works, but can have adverts on it which is distracting and has a dated Ceefax teletext feel about it. To be fair Panasonic seem to have stopped adverts, or perhaps it was me putting in a false postcode so I'm not picking any up targeted ads to my part of the country, but space is still used up by place holders.

    See here for what you can expect on the GuidePlus on the Panasonic Gone Digital | Panasonic statement on GuidePlus

    I would say stick with it for a bit. Once you do something once, you know for the next time. It will soon become second nature. The DigitalStream interface perhaps isn't the most prettiest but its okay and functional.

    What is it about the guide you don't like?

    Your other option is perhaps the Humax, that has a nicer interface in my opinion. There is some handy images of various EPGs here Gone Digital | EPG gallery – FreeviewHD

    Regards

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    Thanks Phil. Yeah I think I`ve got over the initial dissapointment and I`ll stick with it and should just take a while to get used to it. I feel I was just hoping for something altogether better.

    RK :)
     
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    Hi

    Sorry you feel let down.

    Playing back recordings - Hit the MEDIA Button or MENU > MEDIA
    Then on an Item -
    PLAY Button goes to Last Viewed Point or Start if NEW
    OK : Gives Play From Start or Last Viewed.

    Can't see how it is all too complicated - seems very straight forward and logical to me ! but depends were you are coming from. Remote is a bit fiddly as has been noted everywhere.

    Hope things get more familiar . . .
    Pete
     

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