What outcome would you like to see from a vote of no confidence in the current Government?

What outcome would you like to see from a vote of no confidence (VONC) in the current Government?


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gamerste

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Of course I am serious.
What other option to leave is left on the table ?
Boris and unicorns getting a deal?
Leaving with no deal is not happening.
You get choice leave with a Corbyn deal that ends this mess or be in limbo about it for ages.
I want it done as much as the rest of the country, far to many issues away from brexit in this country that need sorting asap.
 

Dbcoup

Distinguished Member
Of course I am serious.
What other option to leave is left on the table ?
Boris and unicorns getting a deal?
Leaving with no deal is not happening.
You get choice leave with a Corbyn deal that ends this mess or be in limbo about it for ages.
I want it done as much as the rest of the country, far to many issues away from brexit in this country that need sorting asap.
Labour will do well to come 4th.
 

IronGiant

Moderator
He's getting rid of a third prime minister in the coming weeks and will probably be installed as prime minister.
Who's deluded now.
You?
He might outlast 3 leaders of the Toy Party, but he certainly won't have been responsible for their removal. Probable Prime Minister is pushing it a bit too.
 

gamerste

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Labour will do well to come 4th.
We will see he is more popular than you think he is
You?
He might outlast 3 leaders of the Toy Party, but he certainly won't have been responsible for their removal. Probable Prime Minister is pushing it a bit too.
He's the leader of the opposition and has dispatched 2 prime minister's one left with his tail between a pig.
The second underestimated him at a GE and lost her majority meaning she couldnt her terrible deal through parliament. Which in turn led to infighting with the hard right of her party.
Now onto the third one who is stoking up that much hatred across the country has been found to have lied and lied and lied again.
Is about to be removed as prime minister.
And jezza is in pole position to move into number 10 as the next prime minister.
Deluded me nah don't think so.
 

IronGiant

Moderator
Please describe in simple terms how he has dispatched anyone? Need I remind you that Labour lost seats at the 2017 election?
 

raduv1

Distinguished Member
Of course I am serious.
What other option to leave is left on the table ?
Boris and unicorns getting a deal?
Leaving with no deal is not happening.
You get choice leave with a Corbyn deal that ends this mess or be in limbo about it for ages.
I want it done as much as the rest of the country, far to many issues away from brexit in this country that need sorting asap.
How the hell do you actually believe the HoC would pass the JC deal with closer ties to the EU when three times they would not accept the May deal ?
 

gamerste

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Please describe in simple terms how he has dispatched anyone? Need I remind you that Labour lost seats at the 2017 election?
If jezza becomes PM in the next few weeks then he has disaptched 3 Tory PMs and won 30 more seats at the last ge than milliband did so I thought I would remind you of that.
Polled 40% of the vote compared to May's 42% 12.8million people voted for him compared to 13.6 for May.
 

gamerste

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How the hell do you actually believe the HoC would pass the JC deal with closer ties to the EU when three times they would not accept the May deal ?
Because it gets it done without any of the massive impacts of other deals and no deal
 

IronGiant

Moderator
If jezza becomes PM in the next few weeks then he has disaptched 3 Tory PMs
And I'll ask for the third time, how has he dispatched anyone? Simply sitting on your hands does not mean you are wielding the axe. Dispatch means you are personally responsible for their demise.
 

raduv1

Distinguished Member
Because it gets it done without any of the massive impacts of other deals and no deal
The question I asked was how the hell would it pass in HoC ? Remember just how much a massive defeat was inflicted on Mays deal in HoC .

I'm not asking what you want .
 

Rasczak

Distinguished Member
He's despatched no one
The EU /conservatives have. You really are deluded.
I am no fan of Corbyn but he has had a part in the demise of both Cameron and May.

For Cameron, it was Corbyn's lacklustre support for the Remain campaign. Cameron had relied on Labour effectively marshaling their forces in support of Remain. Instead, Corbyn was luckwarm and did very little, inaction that probably helped swing the result and cause the downfall of Cameron.

For May, it was Corbyn's refusal to compromise sufficiently to pass her deal that ultimately did for her.

How important or instrumental those contributions were is, of course, debatable. But here he is, still standing two Prime Ministers later. Will he outlive a third and perhaps, as part of the Rebel Alliance, bring him down?
 

EarthRod

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I am no fan of Corbyn but he has had a part in the demise of both Cameron and May.

For Cameron, it was Corbyn's lacklustre support for the Remain campaign. Cameron had relied on Labour effectively marshaling their forces in support of Remain. Instead, Corbyn was luckwarm and did very little, inaction that probably helped swing the result and cause the downfall of Cameron.

For May, it was Corbyn's refusal to compromise sufficiently to pass her deal that ultimately did for her.

How important or instrumental those contributions were is, of course, debatable. But here he is, still standing two Prime Ministers later. Will he outlive a third and perhaps, as part of the Rebel Alliance, bring him down?
There's a lot of truth in that. Jeremy may well see the passing of another prime minister.

All he has to do is stay in the shadows, do little, and watch the self-destruction going on the other side of the House.
 

IronGiant

Moderator
For Cameron, it was Corbyn's lacklustre support for the Remain campaign. Cameron had relied on Labour effectively marshaling their forces in support of Remain. Instead, Corbyn was luckwarm and did very little, inaction that probably helped swing the result and cause the downfall of Cameron.
For May, it was Corbyn's refusal to compromise sufficiently to pass her deal that ultimately did for her.

Not hugely proactive was it then ? He's outlasting them, your own words use "inaction"
 

IronGiant

Moderator
There's a lot of truth in that. Jeremy may well see the passing of another prime minister.

All he has to do is stay in the shadows, do little, and watch the self-destruction going on the other side of the House.
Exactly.
 

IronGiant

Moderator
Any definition of dispatch as a verb confirms it is a positive action. And unless it involves sending a letter or parcel or team somewhere it usually involves a kill. Corbyn has not dispatched anyone.

But here he is, still standing two Prime Ministers later. Will he outlive a third and perhaps, as part of the Rebel Alliance, bring him down?
That is a good summary.
 
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raduv1

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So Jezza's been playing possum.

Last man standing wins.

Maybe not so useless after all.

:eek:
Play dead for long enough as opposition In HoC.
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And your electorate will finally make it a reality .
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Squiffy

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doug56hl

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Please describe in simple terms how he has dispatched anyone? Need I remind you that Labour lost seats at the 2017 election?
If they did, not as many as they gained...;)

For Wales
Conservatives lost 3 seats, Labour gained 3 seats
Results of the 2017 General Election Wales
Labour vote share in Wales +12.1%

For England
Conservatives lost 22 seats, Labour gained 21 seats
Results of the 2017 General Election England
Labour vote share in England +10.3%

For all of the UK
No party wins a majority in parliament as Theresa May's Conservatives lose seats in England and Wales to Labour and the Liberal Democrats, despite seeing their vote share rise.

Conservatives lost 13 seats , Labour gained 30 seats
Results of the 2017 General Election UK
Labour vote share in the UK +9.5%

If it wasn't for the 12 seats the Conservatives gained from the SNP in Scotland their overall +/- position would have been even worse. Labour also gained 6 seats from the SNP
Results of the 2017 General Election Scotland
Labour vote share in Scotland +2.8%
 
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Hampy1972

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Just heard someone shout *Let's have Sharia Law and be done with it* :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
 

Hampy1972

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Now I would go to the streets to stop that!
NUTS! Totally nuts, I do know from some Muslim guys I work with that Sharia Law is working in parts of Bradford and Manchester (inner communities) all matters are resolved by a panel of three blokes dressed like the Taliban.
They told me a story that a girl, who recently married was abused and beaten up badly by her new husband, she wanted to call the police but her own parents forced her to go to the Sharia Law court and not involve outside authorities.
The court decided that the man is right as he is the owner of her and that she must go back home to him..... This is 2019 right? Not 819!
 

gamerste

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NUTS! Totally nuts, I do know from some Muslim guys I work with that Sharia Law is working in parts of Bradford and Manchester (inner communities) all matters are resolved by a panel of three blokes dressed like the Taliban.
They told me a story that a girl, who recently married was abused and beaten up badly by her new husband, she wanted to call the police but her own parents forced her to go to the Sharia Law court and not involve outside authorities.
The court decided that the man is right as he is the owner of her and that she must go back home to him..... This is 2019 right? Not 819!
Do they also write column pieces for the express ?
 

psikey

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NUTS! Totally nuts, I do know from some Muslim guys I work with that Sharia Law is working in parts of Bradford and Manchester (inner communities) all matters are resolved by a panel of three blokes dressed like the Taliban.
They told me a story that a girl, who recently married was abused and beaten up badly by her new husband, she wanted to call the police but her own parents forced her to go to the Sharia Law court and not involve outside authorities.
The court decided that the man is right as he is the owner of her and that she must go back home to him..... This is 2019 right? Not 819!
I call it Sharia Control, not law.

If the persons involved take it to the actual law then their primary issues would be resolved but they may have to give up their cultural dependencies and even family to get real justice.

This is not unique to Muslims. Many strongly religious communities will have sub levels of control including Mormon & Jewish. Even Gypsy and traveller communities handle issues that really should come to the real UK law system.
 

Hampy1972

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Hampy1972

Well-known Member
I call it Sharia Control, not law.

If the persons involved take it to the actual law then their primary issues would be resolved but they may have to give up their cultural dependencies and even family to get real justice.

This is not unique to Muslims. Many strongly religious communities will have sub levels of control including Mormon & Jewish. Even Gypsy and traveller communities handle issues that really should come to the real UK law system.
Spot on, I have come across this before when I lived in the US, Mormon, Amish and Jewish communities are self-governed also some church controlled too. No outside influence....
 

Hampy1972

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Would I be right in guessing that wasn’t actually someone who is Muslim themselves?
That's true, my work collegue behind me......... *I told him, keep it down lad*
 

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