Several times I have commented here about the future of HTPCs in the light of developments M$ are doing in addressing Hollywood's demands for DRM on HD material .. I often feel compelled to comment when someone remarks that they expect to see HD DVDs being ripped just like DVDs are now because some l33t haxzorz will crack the protection. To those thinking that an HTPC in the future will be able to rip, burn and play HD DVDs (or BD come to that) with an HD equivalent of the now defunct DVD Decrpyter or something like AnyDVD I sugest you read this CNet article which describes the landscape that Longhorn will provide and summarises the reasons just why there'll be on 'DVD Jon'. Note that the system includes a 'revocation' capability that can lockout software components if they're compromised .. eg, the recent Winamp hack that allowed protected WMAs to be 'ripped' .. and it's quite probable that a protected internet connection will be needed at some not too distant time given the increasing ubiquity of broadband connections. This of course is what Palladium was all about until its' name changed to something less emotive .. Windows Next Generation Base Sevices (or something like) .. which in turn disappeared and simply became part of the DRM features implemented in Longhorn with little public awarenesss. SVA and SVP protec t the audio and video streams while TCPA technology is what provides the 'sandbox' mentioned in the article .. and not even logic analysers on the bus will be able to get the unprotected data.