Discussion in 'Cables & Switches' started by MJeeves, Sep 16, 2004.
What is the BEST coax cable for DVD player to amp?
1 metre is fine. Can go to £200-£300. Thanks, M.
Personally I can't imagine why anyone would spend that kind of cash on ANY cable. No offence ment, but
Why bother spending that much money on a cable when Mark Grant in the power buys forum does top quality coax 1m cables for £20
£200-300 ? How about this one for £6, works perfectly fine in my system as a digital cable.
Have a look at the van den hul range of coax. They produce some high end carbon based cables which out perform anything I have tried to date.
I currently use the 'The FIRST Ultimate' from my DVD to my Denon AVC-A1SR and had the wife check it out in a blind test with a few other coax cables and a fibre optic. This won hands down, so much more detail was available.
What is the rest of the system
In your price range,try also Kimber D-60,and XLO Ref2 cables......on a slightly different note,I'm not sure I'd spend that kind of money on a digital link for a DVD player....maybe for a very good(and by that I mean things like Wadia,Linn,Krell etc) CD player,but unless your DVD player is truly up to that sort of price range,I wouldn't put the money into interconnects,but would invest it elsewhere in the system.
Denon AVC-A1SR, Pioneer 717 (waiting for new Denon 5910), Pioneer 919 LD, XBOX, PS/2, SKY+, Pioneer CDR, JVC SVHS VCR, Sony DABS Tuner, Crestron Pro2 Automation System, KEF Reference THX Speakers and lots of cables.
All RF cables are custom made Audio Insert F-Type connectors, Van Den Hul VideoLine, StraightWire SilverLInk S-Video, Monster GameLink for Xbox and PS/2, Coax - Van Den Hul, Optical - StraightWire & Van Den Hul. Figure 8 Mains Cable by Mark Grant. All IEC power cables are custom made using Van Den Hul mainstream and Wattgate 350 with Silver plated MK tough plugs (a nightmare to build, but great quality)
I would be tempted to look at Kimber (DV75) or Van Den Hul. As you clearly like your cables etc I would also look at something like an Isotek power supply and I hope you have a supply of DeoxIT or similar. Apogee also make a fantastic digital cable but I cannot recal what it is called
As you already own a decent DVD player would you consider reclocking or improving the power supply instead of buying new.
£200-300 for a coax cable? i have a bridge for sale...
I do like Van Den Hul cables. What is the difference between THE FIRST "ULTIMATE" and THE FIRST "METAL SCREEN" as the guy in the shop recommended the "METAL SCREEN" one over "THE ULTIMATE" because it had added protection from RF noise etc etc. Strangely, "THE METAL SCREEN" was cheaper (imagine that... a shop encouraging you to go for the CHEAPER option!)????!!!!
What do you think?
According to previous posts you are using a Denon 3805. Don't you think that a £300 coax cable is overkill for mid price amps ?
Ian this has got to be a wind up, even assuming a DVD-V player costs £2000-3000 where the 10% ratio came for cabling I will never know. I mean £200-300 on a coaxial cable, I could buy 2 Pioneer 737s for that. Absolute madness. IMHO of course
MJ FWIW I currently use a VDH Source Hybrid rrp circa £60 (I got it free with my speakers) it sounds no different to the £6 Coaxial IC I linked to above. I have even made up DIY coaxial cables from Maplins for the cost of £8, 75ohm sat tv cable, it sounds no different to the VDH, buy one of Mark Grants £20 job, why ? because here is a cable that is cheap and its a cable that even cable believers like. To buy a cable like Marks at a dealers would set you back £100 minimum, think of why that is before you spend anyhwere near £200+
According the Van Den Hul http://www.vandenhul.com/cable/frst-u.htm the shop is correct, they are similar cables with the Metal Screen having higher rejection of RF noise. These cables do not seem to be 75Ohm's but I could not comment on what difference this would make to the sound. They do seem to be audio cables which can also be bought for digital use
Wow, I thought I was bad with cables!
MJeeves, take a long hard look at your system. I use a CD12 and a DAC64 I only spent £70 on a digital COAX cable.
On the Van Den Hul website it says that the FIRST - Metal Screen is 75 Ohm, the shop and the distributor also said it was but... they would wouldn't they? Here is what it says on the product itself:
"Ideal for... SPDIF digital audio interconnect (75 Ohm)..."
Is this the right kind of connection?
Is this the right sort of cable for the connection? 75 Ohm? Anyone?
Yes and if you are buying a retail packed cable then VanDenHul tend to be the best value for money. If you are looking at that kind of money the First Ultimate would also be suitable or the MC Silver IT Mk II (75 Ohm). see this link for all suitable VDH products: http://www.vandenhul.com/cable/c-cab-ap.htm#20.
The Silver IT is quoted at 75 Ohms whereas The First is not quoted is merely says the connection type is 75 Ohms.
I have seen many cables, many prices, used non of them.... Get something that comes in cheap bubble wrap, no fancy cases... just nice clean cables, clean soldering points, nice plugs and then sit back and enjoy
I can recommend a beautful cable if you like... do I have to do that on private email?
1 metre of coax (75) + RCA connects (canare) for a wopping (13 dollars)... and it really is a thing of beauty that puts these 200 euro cables to shame (trust me I have both)
You can also get BNC connects and have the cable in almost any colour
I use them all over my system and have plenty of VanDenHul, QED cables sitting back in their fancy boxes!
All in my opinion of course
The First audio good for digital. Now that made me laugh.
Just buy Mark G power buys, cables really do get NO better. Yes I have van del hul, Kimber, Chord, QED and many other exotics here. Buy a Mark G power buy and send the other £180 to the Tsunami appeal. This way you get the best cable available and you feel good about it.
Have been reading this thread with some amusement... I can really get carried away with my wallet sometimes so this forum is a great place to bring you back down to reality... or not
Where can I find info about and purchase Mark Grant cables?
Too lazy to search, sorry!
Too lazy to link, sorry
At least I was honest...
'A searching I will go..."
Results = this thread only...
I thank you
My advice would be to go for the Mark Grant cable. My system is only entry level but Mark's prices are very reasonable and not be at all expensive if you need just a metre or so (especially considering the quality and service).
Even given the budget nature of my system (dvd and amp together were about 400 quid) the digital coax and sub cable I got from Mark around Xmas have really opened up the sound in movies. So much more detail is available that it sounds like I have bought a new amp!!! The proof is that even my girlfriend (who thinks I am nuts for spending £30 on a cable 'that I already have') is astounded at the difference!
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