1. Join Now

    AVForums.com uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

What is superbit

Discussion in 'Movie Forum' started by RichB14, Jan 20, 2003.

  1. RichB14

    RichB14
    Active Member

    Joined:
    Nov 8, 2002
    Messages:
    764
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    21
    Location:
    Surrey
    Ratings:
    +18
    Seen you can get superbit versions of dvd's but what difference is superbit ?
     
  2. Squirrel God

    Squirrel God
    Guest

    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Ratings:
    +0
    Higher bit rate images and sound. They try to use the entirety of the disk.
     
  3. Desticado

    Desticado
    Active Member

    Joined:
    Oct 16, 2000
    Messages:
    1,474
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    41
    Location:
    Canterbury, Kent, UK
    Ratings:
    +6
    DVD's can be recorded at different levels of quality depending on how much space of the disk they take up.

    Language tracks, extras, deleted scenes etc all take up disk space and so can effect the picture quality.

    Superbit disks are recorded in such a manner so as to maximise the amount of space available for picture information so the movie can be recorded at a higher bit rate (hence supberbit) which gives a better picture.

    Regards
     
  4. Geezer

    Geezer
    Active Member

    Joined:
    Aug 5, 2002
    Messages:
    2,813
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    68
    Ratings:
    +25
    And very few extras. Because of what squirrel said
     
  5. Squirrel God

    Squirrel God
    Guest

    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Ratings:
    +0
    Well, some do have extras, but they put them on a second disk :)
     
  6. Geezer

    Geezer
    Active Member

    Joined:
    Aug 5, 2002
    Messages:
    2,813
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    68
    Ratings:
    +25
    Ah ive only got one superbit title panic room and thats a one disc.
     
  7. Lux

    Lux
    Standard Member

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2002
    Messages:
    759
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    21
    Location:
    Luxembourg
    Ratings:
    +1
    so how come that when DVD has a capacity of around 9Gb that most superbits only fill up around7Gb and still don't include a full bitrate dts??:D
     
  8. Desticado

    Desticado
    Active Member

    Joined:
    Oct 16, 2000
    Messages:
    1,474
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    41
    Location:
    Canterbury, Kent, UK
    Ratings:
    +6
    so that in 12 months time they can get you to buy all your disks again in 'Ultrabit' editions? :D
     
  9. Squirrel God

    Squirrel God
    Guest

    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Ratings:
    +0
    I never bother with Superbits. Apart from the fact that I'd be hard pushed to notice much difference on my 28" w/screen TV, I also doubt there's any difference between a 2-disk superbit title and a 2-disk regular title (i.e. movie is on disk 1 in both cases).

    I'm awaiting the 2-disk SE of Panic Room :D
     
  10. Desticado

    Desticado
    Active Member

    Joined:
    Oct 16, 2000
    Messages:
    1,474
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    41
    Location:
    Canterbury, Kent, UK
    Ratings:
    +6
    There is a GREAT site about where someone has done screenshots comparing the detail levels between superbit and non-supbit titles.

    I think you'd need a good PJ and reasonable size screen to get the real benefit but there was a definite increase in the quality on the superbit. On the SB titles it was possible to see things in the background a LOT more clearly.

    hopefully someone will come to the rescue and post the link to the page in question. The comparrisons were of Patriot and Fifth Element.

    I know what you mean though SG. never bothered with SB titles myself either. Maybe when I move house next and get a cinema room... then maybe... :D
     
  11. Geezer

    Geezer
    Active Member

    Joined:
    Aug 5, 2002
    Messages:
    2,813
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    68
    Ratings:
    +25
    My thinking is that i may as well buy the superbit versions now, for in the future when i may have better equipment.
     
  12. James45

    James45
    Standard Member

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2002
    Messages:
    2,844
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    59
    Location:
    Taking Care of Business
    Ratings:
    +0
    the two-disc R1s with extras are called Superbit Deluxe.

    Basically Superbit ensures that the bit-rate never drops below a certain level, most Superbit's display an average bit-rate of 8-8.5 but then again so do many decently encoded DVDs. Previous superbit discussions have added that there's more to the resulting picture than bit-rate alone.

    So really Superbit is a guarantee of a certain level of quality, nothing more.
     
  13. Geezer

    Geezer
    Active Member

    Joined:
    Aug 5, 2002
    Messages:
    2,813
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    68
    Ratings:
    +25
    But thats fine, with some of the shocking transfers that are about.
     
  14. James45

    James45
    Standard Member

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2002
    Messages:
    2,844
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    59
    Location:
    Taking Care of Business
    Ratings:
    +0
    true but you pay quite a premium for that... and without wanting to generalise Sony DVDs (columbia tristar) are usually good-excellent anyway. My Crouching Tiger, Hidden dragon SB wasn't worth the £13 extra when you could get a vanilla copy for £7, I certainly won't be upgrading Spiderman.
     
  15. Confucius

    Confucius
    Active Member

    Joined:
    Feb 1, 2001
    Messages:
    2,103
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    51
    Location:
    Oxford
    Ratings:
    +90
    Perhaps they should rename the superbit release 'Kerr-ching Tiger, Hidden Dragon'?

    Or maybe not. Sorry.
     
  16. Desticado

    Desticado
    Active Member

    Joined:
    Oct 16, 2000
    Messages:
    1,474
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    41
    Location:
    Canterbury, Kent, UK
    Ratings:
    +6
    ... and they say my jokes are bad! :D
     
  17. James45

    James45
    Standard Member

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2002
    Messages:
    2,844
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    59
    Location:
    Taking Care of Business
    Ratings:
    +0
    :D :D :D LOL:D :D :D
     
  18. RichB14

    RichB14
    Active Member

    Joined:
    Nov 8, 2002
    Messages:
    764
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    21
    Location:
    Surrey
    Ratings:
    +18
    Cheers for sorting that one out guys :)
     
  19. Squirrel God

    Squirrel God
    Guest

    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Ratings:
    +0
    We haven't finished yet :D
     
  20. Sgt.Colon

    Sgt.Colon
    Guest

    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Ratings:
    +0
    Damn right :D

    I have a superbit Panic Room and to be honest I can't tell any difference to other DVD's, so I'm glad I picked it up in the trade section and not paid full price for it :)
     
  21. European

    European
    Guest

    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Ratings:
    +0
    ...here's an article (from The Digital Bits) about Superbit versions of some movies... and here's the official Superbit site...

    . . . :cool: . . .
     
  22. Desticado

    Desticado
    Active Member

    Joined:
    Oct 16, 2000
    Messages:
    1,474
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    41
    Location:
    Canterbury, Kent, UK
    Ratings:
    +6
  23. Squirrel God

    Squirrel God
    Guest

    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Ratings:
    +0
    Interesting. That compares a single disk release (where extras were also on the disk) with a Superbit disk though. I'd like to see a comparison of a 2-disk (where just the movie is on disk 1 and the extras are on disk 2) with a Superbit. I doubt there would be much, if any, difference in this case. Anyone got a link for such a comparison? :)
     
  24. Dave H

    Dave H
    Well-known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2000
    Messages:
    4,373
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    86
    Location:
    Lots of different places!
    Ratings:
    +145
    just thought I would mention the Reg 1 Superbit of The Fifth Element is one of the best pictures I have seen on my 32" Pani.
    It made the Reg 2 version look as bad as the Phantom menace :p

    Cheers Dave.
     
  25. Desticado

    Desticado
    Active Member

    Joined:
    Oct 16, 2000
    Messages:
    1,474
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    41
    Location:
    Canterbury, Kent, UK
    Ratings:
    +6
    never done any comparisons really.

    I've got the German DTS:ES release of 'Das Funfte Element' which looks and sounds fine to me.
     
  26. Squirrel God

    Squirrel God
    Guest

    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Ratings:
    +0
    Doesn't have quite the same ring to it as the English title does it :D
     
  27. Desticado

    Desticado
    Active Member

    Joined:
    Oct 16, 2000
    Messages:
    1,474
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    41
    Location:
    Canterbury, Kent, UK
    Ratings:
    +6
    ...and after we won the war and everything too!!! Shouldnt they be speaking English by now???
     
  28. Squirrel God

    Squirrel God
    Guest

    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Ratings:
    +0
    You'd think so wouldn't you. Or at least find a German equivalent for "element" :D At the very least, they could be decent enough to leave the English soundtracks on their DVDs so that we might consider purchasing them.
     

Share This Page

Loading...