but just can't see many multi-plex cinemas paying for the upgrade (or I guess the license fee to Dolby?).
I'd share the above sentiments. How far will Dolby go with this? It'd be nice to think that we could have 1 Dolby Vision screen in every multiplex, or at least in a lot of them. Is this the intent, or we just going to have a very small handful of screens across the country, as we do with IMAX?
I'm quite interested in the number, and my maths isn't as good as most of you. But the figures are quite confusing, at least in relation to what we've been told in the past.
We were told that the old home video system was designed for maybe 100 nits, and that this wasn't HDR.
Then we have new LCD TVs with 1,000 nits but iffy blacks, and that's HDR. Or OLEDs with 400 or 500 nits and perfect blacks (0 nits) and that's HDR. Okay so far, so good.
And here we have a system that's got a peak of 108 nits, and blacks which are great for projection, but not perfect. and that's HDR.
I appreciate this is a pretty hefty step forward in terms of cinema projection, and it clearly looks better than the old technology, but the figures (108 nits down to less than perfect blacks) amount to a presentation not too distant from an old SDR LCD TV which we were told couldn't possibly be HDR.
I hope you understand the confusion.
The same thoughts crossed my mind.
For a start, it would be nice if the use of units was consistent (comment levelled at the article, not yourself).
Isn't the article actually quoting the peak level that the film is graded to and the peak level used in the playback, but then interchanging these when offering a comparison between current SDR and HDR?
For instance, a HDR TV is still calibrated to around a peak of 120nits, even if (in the case of Dolby Vision) the source content could be graded with a peak of 4000 nits?
I've just found an online convertor.
The article also says it's capable (in 2D) of delivering 31 foot lamberts, which the convertor confirms is 106 nits.
As I say, I appreciate that projection and TVs are two different things. But we've been told we couldn't have HDR at home until brighter TVs arrived. Now the implication of these figures is that we could have had it all along.
It's all a bit confusing.
But having said that, I'd love to hear some more comments. There may be something that I'm missing, and the article has me intrigued.
I've just found an online convertor.
The article also says it's capable (in 2D) of delivering 31 foot lamberts, which the convertor confirms is 106 nits.
As I say, I appreciate that projection and TVs are two different things. But we've been told we couldn't have HDR at home until brighter TVs arrived. Now the implication of these figures is that we could have had it all along.
It's all a bit confusing.
But having said that, I'd love to hear some more comments. There may be something that I'm missing, and the article has me intrigued.
I see that AMC recently purchased Odeon and UCI Cinemas Group, so hopefully we'll be seeing something equivalent to their AMC Prime rolled out here in the UK soon...I was in New York in April and visited the AMC 25 which have a Dolby Cinema. Watched X-men crap movie but what a stunning picture and the sound was outstanding with leather comfortable seats. All cinemas need to be this standard, yes you paid more for the experience but this is the future of Cinema (forget IMAX,3D) Can not see this rolled out in the UK cost too much probably a London Venu. The only complaint which was briefly mentioned in the article the red exit signs reflect on the corners of the left and right screen. With today's technology must be a way to deflect this because it ruined the experience.
I see that AMC recently purchased Odeon and UCI Cinemas Group, so hopefully we'll be seeing something equivalent to their AMC Prime rolled out here in the UK soon...
AMC Theatres - Dolby Cinema at AMC
Odeon already have Gallery seating and Atmos sound systems in a couple of screens over at their new Milton Keynes multiplex, so I've got my fingers crossed that'll get upgraded to full Dolby Cinema system some day.
While I believe it's a combination of colour and brighter images, but definitely more emphasis on wider colour, I personally would take a nice uniform ink black back ground with nice colour shades over any extra luminance or peak brightness inducing a more washed out picture.It's not brighter TVs, it's TV capable of a wider dynamic range (and 10bit, new EOFT, wider colour gamut) that makes a TV HDR. The whole 'brighter' thing is either a poor explanation or marketing bull.
(If you can't make the luminance of a TV's 'black' level lower, than you have to increase its peak brightness in order to increase the dynamic range).
In what way are the units inconsistent? Dolby Vision content graded for projection in a Dolby Cinema has a peak brightness of 108nits but Dolby Vision content graded for TV uses 4,000nits, although current TVs can only reach a maximum peak brightness of around 1,000nits. I don't think I even mention SDR but you actually calibrate an SDR TV image to 120nits, not an HDR TV image.The same thoughts crossed my mind. For a start, it would be nice if the use of units was consistent (comment levelled at the article, not yourself). Isn't the article actually quoting the peak level that the film is graded to and the peak level used in the playback, but then interchanging these when offering a comparison between current SDR and HDR? For instance, a HDR TV is still calibrated to around a peak of 120nits, even if (in the case of Dolby Vision) the source content could be graded with a peak of 4000 nits?
In what way are the units inconsistent?
Where were you sitting as interested in visiting same cinema when in New York in October. Normally target middle of seating perhaps slightly to rear would this have impacted on exit signs issue. Plan to book in advance to optimise and avoid disappointment.I was in New York in April and visited the AMC 25 which have a Dolby Cinema. Watched X-men crap movie but what a stunning picture and the sound was outstanding with leather comfortable seats. All cinemas need to be this standard, yes you paid more for the experience but this is the future of Cinema (forget IMAX,3D) Can not see this rolled out in the UK cost too much probably a London Venu. The only complaint which was briefly mentioned in the article the red exit signs reflect on the corners of the left and right screen. With today's technology must be a way to deflect this because it ruined the experience.