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What Hifi and Signature 805s

Discussion in 'Home Cinema Speakers' started by klnc, Apr 28, 2003.

  1. klnc

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    Quote from a review by What Hifi of the Signature 805s on the B&W website

    http://www.bwspeakers.com/index.cfm.../ObjectID/EEE764FF-E324-4501-A09965AA5BEEC437

    "Bi-wiring is essential to make the most of the impressive transparency, as is a pair of sturdy supports."

    Now i take the bit about the supports, but are they talking rubbish on the bi-wiring - i thought most people don't give that the time of day anymore?
     
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    I bi-wire my front speakers both l+r + centre speakers. I noticed an improvement after bi-wiring- seemed to be more detailed repro imo. give it a go and see if u notice a difference.
    The B&W manual suggests you get a better preformance with biwiring and should do so to optimise their performance. I'm not going to argue with that. The only down side is having to fork out for more cable, but I thought it worthwhile in the end.
     
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    A mate of mine has a pir of 602s3's and while demoing at sevenoaks the salesman offered that they would sound better with good single wire than bi-wire. And according to him they did. I think its very subjective and other factors such as placement can have a bigger impact.
     
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    But what if you were to bi-wire with good cable, rather than with 2 'lesser' cables?

    Ive biwired my current b&w's and i too notice a slightly clearer/more detailed sound.
     
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    I have a pair of the 805 Sig's, I haven't Bi-Wired mine. I have used Townshend Isolda Speaker Cable. They sound the dogs B*****. So why bother? I know some people like to bi-wire, and that fine if thats what they whant.

    Go to www.groovehandle.org you get a better answer than on here it is more HIFI orientated.
     
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    Can't bi-wire my Dyns - saves all the messing about :)
     
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    Yeah ... but that also means you can't bi-amp them either :( which maybe a complete red herring and if you could bi-amp them there may be no difference to the sound ... but you don't even get the option of trying.

    edit ... typed "would" instead of "could" ... though "may" is an even better word so I'll put that in instead
     
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    Me too:D

    I'm not worried abou the inability to bi-amp vicky/stef - there's plenty of pre/pow combo's and expensive integrateds to play with :p
     
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    I _have_ bi-amped Dyns in the past in the car, but they really sounded better fed lots of power passively through the Dyn crossovers.

    As said above, there's plent of other things to play with....
     
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    Any one tried doubleing the amount of cable into their speaker.
    Not twice the lenght. I mean two lots of cable. Isn't this all your doing when you bi-wire?
     
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    Can anyone explain how bi-wiring is actually electrically different from using a single wire? In both cases you're applying the same signal to both sets of terminals; it's just that in one case you're connecting one set of terminals to the other with the speaker's built-in shunt, and in the other case you're using two lengths of speaker wire (terminal 1 to amp to terminal 2) with the signal applied in the middle.

    Bi-amping I can certainly see the advantages of, both in terms of taking strain off the power amp, and in terms of simplifying the cross-over process. But neither one of those applies to bi-wiring, unless you can somehow arrange for there to be no electrical connection between two sets of terminals at the amplifier end.
     
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    My 805s were single wired with Kimber 8TC when I got them,and with all the advice to biwire,I tried,and was quite surprised by the extra detail and smoothness....no problems hearing the difference immediately,and that's using fairly hefty cable,and amps which arent going to clip.
    Highly recommended even if it's just to give it a try.
     
  13. klnc

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    Thanks for the replies chaps... Sorry didn't mean to start another debate about the benefits or not of bi-wiring was just interested why the reviewer was adament that these particular speakers must be biwired. Will certainly be trying these speakers out in the near future - haven't heard anything but praise for them!
     

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