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What has happened to DTS:X

Steve Withers

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mtenga

Distinguished Member
I brought in a couple of discs from Amazon US when my receiver got the update in Feb but not particularly looking out for DTSX discs any more. If you have got Atmos already its not going to change your life.
 

dante01

Distinguished Member
One upcoming DTS:X release worth having will be the Independence Day 20th Anniversary UHD disc. The thing about this is that Fox have decided not to include DTS:X with the Blu-ray release and are only including it on the UHD disc.

The reality is that the original DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1 track – taken apart from all of the furore – is actually a pretty impressive job. It’s hard to fathom why we couldn’t get the same DTS:X track which the upcoming Ultra HD Blu-ray release will be sporting, as that’s almost like offering up a video presentation which isn’t taken from the 4K remaster which they used for the UHD – i.e. an outright insult – and it’s even harder to understand why the packaging says 7.1 (perhaps a holdover from the original intention to supply a DTS:X track, as 7.1 would be the natural core) but, as 8-year-old tracks go, it’s amidst the best of the best..
Independence Day 20th Anniversary Blu-ray Review
 

Seriously Ltd

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Object based audio is a big leap forward in the movie viewing experience whether it be the cinema or at home. In a properly configured object based home cinema the results are stunning.

If you can't accommodate crinkling speakers then front and rear height speakers work extremely well.

Dolby's DSU and DTS's Neural:X deliver fantastic immersion to 2.0, 5.1 and 7.1 movies and programmes.

Object based audio is going to stay, becoming more advanced in the future.
 

joner7777

Well-known Member
Object based audio is a big leap forward in the movie viewing experience whether it be the cinema or at home. In a properly configured object based home cinema the results are stunning.

If you can't accommodate crinkling speakers then front and rear height speakers work extremely well.

Dolby's DSU and DTS's Neural:X deliver fantastic immersion to 2.0, 5.1 and 7.1 movies and programmes.

Object based audio is going to stay, becoming more advanced in the future.
I am new to this type of audio effect and it really is fantastic.

The effects going on all around seems strange to start with but soon match the film , thing is ,I only appreciate how good it is because if I return into my lounge with ordinary LG wide tv and soundbar and put on the same film ,it seems wasted ,almost unwatchable !

Problem now is , my Mrs seems to think I am married to my man cave cinema and not her.
What do I do ? so many films to see on Netflix I have missed over the years ,she likes soaps.!
 

Romster1

Active Member
reads and watched the marketing spiel and they do imply that it will work with normal 5.1 speaker configs, which I doubt. its all pretty confusing and to make matters worse there are now receivers with DTS X and virtual X processing which is more likely to work with different speaker configs. retailer's seem to be just as confused none I asked could explain DTS X to me.
 

dante01

Distinguished Member
DTS:X is simply an object based 3D immersive format along the same lines as Atmos. One of the differentiating factors is the fewer number of abjects when compared to what Atmos can portray and obviously the fact it relies upon DTS-HD Master Audio formatted audio to carry the metadata as opposed to the Dolby formats associated with Atmos.Yes, unlike Atmos a recver will process the DTS:X metadata even in the absence of the additional speakers you'd ordinarilly associate with an Atmos configuration, but you'd not get the desired three dimensional imersion without these speakers.
 

Romster1

Active Member
ivegot a receiver which supports dts x, virtual and neural x too arriving tomorrow I was wondering if I had made a mistake with the purchase and wasgoing to cancel my order but if it is as immersive as described in this thread then I'll keep hold of it and see how I get on with it.
 

dante01

Distinguished Member
The fact that the receiver includes the virtual height options doesn't stop you installing and using physical height, ceiling or upward firing speakers instead. You'd still get the best portrayal of DTS:X or Atmos using actual speakers as opposed to relying upon virtual representations of them. The virtualisation is or was intended for use with soundbars as opposed to being implemented into AV receiver.
 

Romster1

Active Member
cheers Dante I haven't got ceiling speakers and have no plans to fit any at this point which is why I compramised with an amp which supported neural and virtual x processing but ive been kicking myself wondering if I I have made a bad choice :(
 

gibbsy

Moderator
cheers Dante I haven't got ceiling speakers and have no plans to fit any at this point which is why I compramised with an amp which supported neural and virtual x processing but ive been kicking myself wondering if I I have made a bad choice :(
It's likely to be a feature on most new receivers as manufacturers try to keep up with each other. You don't have to use it and there will probably be a way to use the native soundtrack on any disc. Virtual will in no way be better than correctly installed and configured speakers for the Atmos domain.
 

dante01

Distinguished Member
You are not forced to engage the virtual height modes and can simply run the receiver as a conventional 5.1 or 7.1 AV receiver. If unable to accomodate physical height, ceiling or upfiring speakers then you may as well use the virtual height modes to try get the best you can from Atmos and or DTS:X encoded soundtracks. You would hear a better portrayal of those soudtracks using physical as opposed to virtual speakers though.
 

Romster1

Active Member
yea I know virtualisation will never be better than physical speakers it was blind compromise on my part.
 
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