What freeview PVR?

We're thinking of dropping sky - basically, we have a tree we can't do a lot about, and the house is too small to move the dish anywhere else (plus it's expensive!) so we're thinking of going freeview. The stuff we watch on Sky 1 we can find by other methods.
I've not used freeview before so I have one or two questions...

1) We want Sky+ type functionality. The Humax 9200(?) looks about right, but are there any better or worse options?

2) I know HD isn't available any time soon but are there any "media player" type things that support HD and also have Freeview in them? (i.e. I could copy some downloaded .mkv HD movies down to the hard disk in the box and watch them in HD and also use it for freeview)? Maybe best to keep them separate.

3) I see some channels aren't available via Freeview yet, such as C4, ITV1 etc etc. Will a freeview box nicely put these "non-digital" signals into it's channel listing or will I have to mess about using the normal TV tuner for those and only switching to SCART for stuff that comes in as digital? We're abuot half way between Waltham and Sandy, is the signal likely to be crap? And if so is it fixable? If it's as bad as Sky breaking up then we might have to think again!

Thanks
 

fernandez

Distinguished Member
3) I see some channels aren't available via Freeview yet, such as C4, ITV1 etc etc......

I think you're confusing Freeview with Freesat (both versions)
C4 and ITV1 are available on Freeview, Freesat and, indeed, any capable digital receiver
FIVE is on Freeview but not, at the moment on Freesat but is viewable on freesatfomsky with a viewing card

ITV1HD, when available, will be viewable AFAIK only with a Freesat HD receiver
 

Andy98765

Distinguished Member
A quick one to knock on the head is "I see some channels aren't available via Freeview yet, such as C4, ITV1 etc etc", wrong they are available via Freeview and have been since day one. You really are out of touch!
As to a suitable aerial for reception put your postcode into this http://www.wolfbane.com/cgi-bin/tvd.exe? and post the results from the boxes.
Distance miles to transmitter
Antenna (suggestion)

For further info http://www.freeview.co.uk/channels/?__SITE=public&p[0]=channels
 

nil102

Active Member
As to a suitable aerial for reception put your postcode into this http://www.wolfbane.com/cgi-bin/tvd.exe? and post the results from the boxes.
Distance miles to transmitter
Antenna (suggestion)

For further info http://www.freeview.co.uk/channels/?__SITE=public&p[0]=channels

As regards this websites recommendations I would be wary,according to my post code/grid ref I need an amplified hi-gain a/e...Rubbish my Freeview reception is excellent in fact it registers as 100% on my reciever and this is from a 20 year old+ a/e
 
A quick one to knock on the head is "I see some channels aren't available via Freeview yet, such as C4, ITV1 etc etc", wrong they are available via Freeview and have been since day one. You really are out of touch!
As to a suitable aerial for reception put your postcode into this http://www.wolfbane.com/cgi-bin/tvd.exe? and post the results from the boxes.
Distance miles to transmitter
Antenna (suggestion)

For further info http://www.freeview.co.uk/channels/?__SITE=public&p[0]=channels

As to what channels are available, I based it on this: http://www.freeview.co.uk/availability/main/display/coverage/pe8+4dg/NA/0/d3acd01f84e74f21aecdf9ae0c200f9f (not sure if that link will work!) but it says ITV1, C4, E4 and others will be available after switchover. Of course, I guess that site could be completely wrong :)

I'll look at the other links you sent thanks!

Edit: Apparently I'd need an amplified extra-hi-gain. And talking to an installer, the tree that messes up Sky could of course mess up Freeview too... hmm!
 

aekostas

Active Member
It could interfere if the transmitter is roughly the same direction as what the dish points just now. Check the direction of neighbours' aerials whom you know to get Freeview.
 

aekostas

Active Member
If you want a sort of upscaling, you might want to look at dvd/hdd recorders like the Pana DMR-EX78 or Sony's RDR-HXD870.

The panasonic doesn't have analog tuner, where I think the sony has.
Anyway, more information on that forum :
http://www.avforums.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=113

Good advice, but not along the PVR route. If you need to have an upscaling PVR, the Topfield TF5810 is one. If you can live without, try the Humax or the Topfield TF5800. There are others in the running. I would not consider a PVR that cannot record two (twin-tuner is *not* a synonym for that).

Shedloads of info is available from

http://www.avforums.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=47

HTH!
 

Andy98765

Distinguished Member
As to what channels are available, I based it on this: http://www.freeview.co.uk/availability/main/display/coverage/pe8+4dg/NA/0/d3acd01f84e74f21aecdf9ae0c200f9f (not sure if that link will work!) but it says ITV1, C4, E4 and others will be available after switchover. Of course, I guess that site could be completely wrong :)

I'll look at the other links you sent thanks!

Edit: Apparently I'd need an amplified extra-hi-gain. And talking to an installer, the tree that messes up Sky could of course mess up Freeview too... hmm!

It looks as though you could be in one of thoses freak areas were availablity is minimal. Again a call to the installer should confirm things.
 
It looks as though you could be in one of thoses freak areas were availablity is minimal. Again a call to the installer should confirm things.

Why does that not surprise me... mobile phone doesn't work very well either. It's not like we're in the middle of the highlands, we're just 10 miles from Peterborough!

The DigitalTV site says the channels such as ITV1, C4 etc etc are "unpredictable" or some such.

Posted in a local forum for the town for other residents experiences
 

holybinch

Standard Member
Good advice, but not along the PVR route. If you need to have an upscaling PVR, the Topfield TF5810 is one. If you can live without, try the Humax or the Topfield TF5800. There are others in the running. I would not consider a PVR that cannot record two (twin-tuner is *not* a synonym for that).

Shedloads of info is available from

http://www.avforums.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=47

HTH!

Sure, I'm not talking about PVR there.
It's just that the upscaling of the Toppy doesn't seem to hold that well the comparison with the DVD/HDD recorders (but I might be misled)
I basically am in the same situation as the OP, and after much fussing and thinking about, opted for a DVD/HDD recorder, just for their upscaling capacities (and the fact that it will also upscale my DVDs ;))
 

MarkE19

Moderator
But I have to ask - why do you want a source to upscale TV & DVD's when a pixel based display will upscale the video to it's native resolution anyway (and probably do a better job than the scaling in a DVD/HDD recorder)?
There is a fair chance that the HDD/DVD recorder will only upsacale to 720 & 1080 - but if your screen is say 768 (as many early HD screens are) then you will end up scaling twice which is probably bad for PQ.

Mark.
 

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