What film are you watching tonight/watched last night???

BigStu1972

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I've watched a movie tonight that I'd never heard of until someone recommended it on here. And so from a recommendation on here (which are always good pointers) I watched it.

HACKSAW RIDGE

Top movie. I've since found out is a true story about a conscientious objector who joined the US army during world war II who refused to pick up a gun but who wanted to help. I started crying at one point and that was only half way through the movie! The the war scenes at the end are brutal. And I mean brutal. If you haven't seen it, I highly recommend it. Streaming included with Amazon Prime membership.

10/10

I'd never heard of it before so thanks to whoever recommended it. :thumbsup:
Whilst I agree that the battle scenes were pretty full on, for some reason the film just didn't do it for me. I wasn't convinced by any of the casting and thought it all a bit daft at the end.
 

Stockholm

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Vampire teeth?

In general:

Fear City: New York vs The Mafia - Netflix - 2020

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If it's on Netflix it's fair game to post in here, right? Watched Fear City: New York vs The Mafia last night and couldn't stop until it was finished. It's basically about Rudy Giuliani and his crack team of young DAs and FBI agents going after the heads of the Five NY Families (Gambino, Lucchese, Colombo, Bonanno and the Genovese family) using a newfangled legal act known as RICO which stands for Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations and is an act that essentially enables prosecutors to dismantle criminal organisations rather than the individuals that make it up and inevitably carry out the crimes on behalf of their bosses.

I actually knew next to nothing about that era of NY mobster, i.e. the late 70s, early 80s and its posse of family bosses such as Paul Castellano, Tony Salerno, and others. I know who John Gotti is, of course, but the older crew were new to me which made it even more compelling.

Got to say that the mafia came across as sloppy and naive when it came to possessing an awareness of government and law enforcement surveillance of their activities. Either that or arrogance and believing they were beyond the reach of the law. Seems like with better lawyers to forewarn them of things like RICO and how to avoid being caught up in it, or just hiring electronic specialists to run counter-intelligence for them they could have avoided the ballache that came their way.

The good guys came across as naive as well at times, though. For example, expressing surprise that the mob were involved in organising labour in NYC and taking a cut of construction deals. Really? The marriage between the teamsters and the mob had been around for decades by that point.

Worth watching though. As an aside, my friend and his wife befriended Rudy Giuliani when he was over in Scotland once over a decade ago and he reciprocated their hospitality and invited them over to NYC and laid out the red carpet for them. I realise he's a politician so will divide opinion, of course.
 

encaser

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Vampire teeth?

In general:

Fear City: New York vs The Mafia - Netflix - 2020

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If it's on Netflix it's fair game to post in here, right? Watched Fear City: New York vs The Mafia last night and couldn't stop until it was finished. It's basically about Rudy Giuliani and his crack team of young DAs and FBI agents going after the heads of the Five NY Families (Gambino, Lucchese, Colombo, Bonanno and the Genovese family) using a newfangled legal act known as RICO which stands for Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations and is an act that essentially enables prosecutors to dismantle criminal organisations rather than the individuals that make it up and inevitably carry out the crimes on behalf of their bosses.

I actually knew next to nothing about that era of NY mobster, i.e. the late 70s, early 80s and its posse of family bosses such as Paul Castellano, Tony Salerno, and others. I know who John Gotti is, of course, but the older crew were new to me which made it even more compelling.

Got to say that the mafia came across as sloppy and naive when it came to possessing an awareness of government and law enforcement surveillance of their activities. Either that or arrogance and believing they were beyond the reach of the law. Seems like with better lawyers to forewarn them of things like RICO and how to avoid being caught up in it, or just hiring electronic specialists to run counter-intelligence for them they could have avoided the ballache that came their way.

The good guys came across as naive as well at times, though. For example, expressing surprise that the mob were involved in organising labour in NYC and taking a cut of construction deals. Really? The marriage between the teamsters and the mob had been around for decades by that point.

Worth watching though. As an aside, my friend and his wife befriended Rudy Giuliani when he was over in Scotland once over a decade ago and he reciprocated their hospitality and invited them over to NYC and laid out the red carpet for them. I realise he's a politician so will divide opinion, of course.
@Stockholm I did post more about Factory Girl but thought, nah, leave it son, leave it.
This sounds like many films/series/doc's on the topic. Several leave me thinking why bother? It tends to ranker me when the good guys are portrayed as naive, when they spent such time surveilling, setting up deeply intricate legal pitfalls and methods of entrapment.
Apparently, a big anti tech device employed by the mob was to hold a hand over their mouth whilst chatting to stop fed lip readers and cause trouble for parabolic mics.
RICO is so controversial, as it's been used and abused by various law agencies over the years to bust low level drug users and their family's, prostitutes etc. and/or placing them in fatally dangerous situations in the name of getting big fish. Some State lawyers and police have been cited for charges ranging all the way to murder conspiracy (irony) due to abuses - though unsurprisingly getting away scot-free.
Rudy and Judy, hey? It'd be more interesting now to hear about it, what with his alleged dirty dealings and Trump scandals. That guy does look like a crusty vampire.
 

Stockholm

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@Stockholm I did post more about Factory Girl but thought, nah, leave it son, leave it.
This sounds like many films/series/doc's on the topic. Several leave me thinking why bother? It tends to ranker me when the good guys are portrayed as naive, when they spent such time surveilling, setting up deeply intricate legal pitfalls and methods of entrapment.
Apparently, a big anti tech device employed by the mob was to hold a hand over their mouth whilst chatting to stop fed lip readers and cause trouble for parabolic mics.
RICO is so controversial, as it's been used and abused by various law agencies over the years to bust low level drug users and their family's, prostitutes etc. and/or placing them in fatally dangerous situations in the name of getting big fish. Some State lawyers and police have been cited for charges ranging all the way to murder conspiracy (irony) due to abuses - though unsurprisingly getting away scot-free.
Rudy and Judy, hey? It'd be more interesting now to hear about it, what with his alleged dirty dealings and Trump scandals. That guy does look like a crusty vampire.
Yeah, the way RICO rolls other, sometimes smaller crimes into a much larger and more encompassing criminal conspiracy charge seems ripe for abuse and malfeasance by ambitious and/or corrupt law enforcement officers and prosecutors.

Another thing that always comes across as naive and short-sighted is the triumphant attitude of the good guys after a win and declarations about cleaning up the city. You cut the head off of one snake and another grows back to take its place. In that regard, the 'victory' for the feds in this documentary is almost completely hollow. In fact, they perhaps did the Five Families a favour by clearing out the old blood and allowing new, younger mobsters to take control of the whole thing, e.g. John Gotti. That, in turn, allowed more drugs to flow into NYC and elsewhere in America which in turn increased the funds available for Reagan's War on Drugs and the number of inmates going into the privatised prison system in America. Edit - There was a lot of money to be made by removing the old mob bosses.
 

encaser

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Yeah, the way RICO rolls other, sometimes smaller crimes into a much larger and more encompassing criminal conspiracy charge seems ripe for abuse and malfeasance by ambitious and/or corrupt law enforcement officers and prosecutors.

Another thing that always comes across as naive and short-sighted is the triumphant attitude of the good guys after a win and declarations about cleaning up the city. You cut the head off of one snake and another grows back to take its place. In that regard, the 'victory' for the feds in this documentary is almost completely hollow. In fact, they perhaps did the Five Families a favour by clearing out the old blood and allowing new, younger mobsters to take control of the whole thing, e.g. John Gotti. That, in turn, allowed more drugs to flow into NYC and elsewhere in America which in turn increased the funds available for Reagan's War on Drugs and the number of inmates going into the privatised prison system in America. Edit - There was a lot of money to be made by removing the old mob bosses.
Yeah, it was such a waste and political drum banger - still is.
The privatised slave labour prisons are shocking too, what with their keeping inmates in for as long as possible adding offences
 

top4719

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Chopping Mall - 5.5/10 - A film that passed me by in the 80's and does it look like in comes from the 80's, you bet. Its low budget, trashy, un PC and has a fair smattering of bare breasts, the plot concerns a mall that introduces a foolproof (ahem) robot security system to patrol the floors of the shopping centre (the same one from Arnie's Commando) a lightening storm causes the robots to malfunction and the now Killbots (the films original title) go after the attendee's of a stay over in a furniture store, entertaining low budget fun.
 

bruce-leroy

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Bill & Ted’s Bogus Journey (1991) - Pete Hewitt

Shout Factory Region A Blu Ray

The sequel to Excellent Adventure is one that has not had as many viewings but the movie itself is thankfully far from bogus. Instead, like all good sequels, it wisely does not just repeat what went before with more time travel shenanigans; and - taking the route well trodden by The Empire Strikes Back and Back To The Future II - opts for a journey into much darker recesses by having our loveable duo killed off by their evil robot doppelgängers (not a spoiler)! Make no mistake, Bogus Journey stretches the threshold of it’s UK (then) PG certificate (I’m assuming it was PG-13 in the US) with some rather unsettling, surreal sequences that might be a bit disturbing for some youngsters of a sensitive disposition. With Bill and Ted stuck in limbo; there are run-ins with Satan himself, a sinister Easter Bunny and a ghastly Granny S. Preston Esquire (pre-dating the creepy old lady from It: Chapter Two by almost thirty years!).

Whilst the tone is decidedly blacker, the sequel doesn’t scrimp on the laughs - with William Sadler’s memorable turn as The Grim Reaper mostly being the butt (literally at one point when the guys ‘melvin’ him) of all the jokes. Elsewhere, Winter and Reeves are on fine form and manage to cause just as much havoc in the afterlife (such as possessing Ted’s dad) between visits to heaven and hell. It doesn’t stop there though; Evil Bill and Ted threaten to totally steal the show with their totally outrageous antics. Upon being discovered of their nefarious intentions, the evil pair inform their human counterparts that they’ve been totally programmed to kill them, before adding after a pause ‘And we want to do it too!’ Despite a change in director, the returning scribes Solomon and Matheson fill the movie with lots of subtly amusing touches such as Bill’s Ex. Stepmother Missy marrying Ted’s dad and more elaborate air guitar riffs.

 
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Coz22998

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Shadow (2018, US iTunes, also streaming on UK Netflix)

Another Zhang Yimou martial arts/actual art flick, and another in the glorious modern day lineage from CTHD through to Hero, HoFD, etc.

Bathed in almost a permanent world of no colour (except of course red) and downpouring rain, Yimou gives us a riff on the traditional feudal Eastern power grab tale, of Kings and reclaimed cities, of honour and repressed love, all mixed up with beautiful slow-motion wuxia wirework. The twist this time being we also get the titular 'shadow' - a slowly dying general has been training a replacement to take his place, someone who looks exactly like him in every way.

And like both Lee and Yimou's previous similar films, its short on the actual martial arts and long on political intrigue, unrequited love, double and triple crosses. Yet for me that doesn't matter one bit - the fights in this are balletic, as expected, given a neat twist of focussing on a 'feminine' fighting style (their words, not mine) involving umbrellas (I did say it was always raining......) and beautiful, but the other non-action scenes are every bit as gorgeous, the characters almost always painted within a huge canvas of palaces, caves or the beautiful countryside.

The narrative itself offers up no real surprises and if you come to this expecting wall-to-wall action like the trailer promises, you may come away disappointed. But its a beautiful looking and sounding film, every shot is literally like a still photograph or painting, with its ethereal zither/flute score matching the visuals perfectly. And once you plug into the narrative and the characters, you almost don't mind the lack of beautifully choreographed fisticuffs........almost.

Not quite up there with the other films mentioned, but its still a beautiful watch.
 

mooperman

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Bill & Ted’s Bogus Journey (1991) - Pete Hewitt

Shout Factory Region A Blu Ray

The sequel to Excellent Adventure is one that has not had as many viewings but the movie itself is thankfully far from bogus. Instead, like all good sequels, it wisely does not just repeat what went before with more time travel shenanigans; and - taking the route well trodden by The Empire Strikes Back and Back To The Future II - opts for a journey into much darker recesses by having our loveable duo killed off by their evil robot doppelgängers (not a spoiler)! Make no mistake, Bogus Journey stretches the threshold of it’s UK (then) PG certificate (I’m assuming it was PG-13 in the US) with some rather unsettling, surreal sequences that might be a bit disturbing for some youngsters of a sensitive disposition. With Bill and Ted stuck in limbo; there are run-ins with Satan himself, a sinister Easter Bunny and a ghastly Granny S. Preston Esquire (pre-dating the creepy old lady from It: Chapter Two by almost twenty years!).

Whilst the tone is decidedly blacker, the sequel doesn’t scrimp on the laughs - with William Sadler’s memorable turn as The Grim Reaper mostly being the butt (literally at one point when the guys ‘melvin’ him) of all the jokes. Elsewhere, Winter and Reeves are on fine form and manage to cause just as much havoc in the afterlife (such as possessing Ted’s dad) between visits to heaven and hell. It doesn’t stop there though; Evil Bill and Ted threaten to totally steal the show with their totally outrageous antics. Upon being discovered of their nefarious intentions, the evil pair inform their human counterparts that they’ve been totally programmed to kill them, before adding after a pause ‘And we want to do it too!’ Despite a change in director, the returning scribes Solomon and Matheson fill the movie with lots of subtly amusing touches such as Bill’s Ex. Stepmother Missy marrying Ted’s dad and more elaborate air guitar riffs.

potential controversial opinion but i actually prefer bogus to excellent... mostly because of death, some of his quips are great...

walking through the shop and he see's a guy smoking..
"see you real soon"

:D :D :D
 

lucasisking

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Bill & Ted’s Bogus Journey (1991) - Pete Hewitt

Shout Factory Region A Blu Ray

The sequel to Excellent Adventure is one that has not had as many viewings but the movie itself is thankfully far from bogus. Instead, like all good sequels, it wisely does not just repeat what went before with more time travel shenanigans; and - taking the route well trodden by The Empire Strikes Back and Back To The Future II - opts for a journey into much darker recesses by having our loveable duo killed off by their evil robot doppelgängers (not a spoiler)! Make no mistake, Bogus Journey stretches the threshold of it’s UK (then) PG certificate (I’m assuming it was PG-13 in the US) with some rather unsettling, surreal sequences that might be a bit disturbing for some youngsters of a sensitive disposition. With Bill and Ted stuck in limbo; there are run-ins with Satan himself, a sinister Easter Bunny and a ghastly Granny S. Preston Esquire (pre-dating the creepy old lady from It: Chapter Two by almost thirty years!).

Whilst the tone is decidedly blacker, the sequel doesn’t scrimp on the laughs - with William Sadler’s memorable turn as The Grim Reaper mostly being the butt (literally at one point when the guys ‘melvin’ him) of all the jokes. Elsewhere, Winter and Reeves are on fine form and manage to cause just as much havoc in the afterlife (such as possessing Ted’s dad) between visits to heaven and hell. It doesn’t stop there though; Evil Bill and Ted threaten to totally steal the show with their totally outrageous antics. Upon being discovered of their nefarious intentions, the evil pair inform their human counterparts that they’ve been totally programmed to kill them, before adding after a pause ‘And we want to do it too!’ Despite a change in director, the returning scribes Solomon and Matheson fill the movie with lots of subtly amusing touches such as Bill’s Ex. Stepmother Missy marrying Ted’s dad and more elaborate air guitar riffs.

Cool cameo too from Jim Martin of Faith No More (my fave band) before his boozy departure from the band!
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"what a ****head"
 

Lancia34

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richp007

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potential controversial opinion but i actually prefer bogus to excellent... mostly because of death, some of his quips are great...

walking through the shop and he see's a guy smoking..
"see you real soon"

:D :D :D
I'm also a Bogus fan more. I think it just worked better and was helped by the characters now being established.
 

bruce-leroy

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RE: Keanu Reeves in Bill & Ted

I love that Reeves’ Point Break came out in the same year as Bogus Journey. Johnny Utah is essentially Ted if he got packed off to military school by his dad, and later became an FBI agent! :D
 

bruce-leroy

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Over The Top (1987) - Menehem Golan

Stallone’s second film on his Cannon/Warner deal after the legendary Cobra. Essentially Rocky (or Karate Kid) with arm-wrestling with a (at this point) perfectly sculpted Sly doing his underdog thing again - its more of a curio for us non Americans who aren’t tapped into that particular (redneck - if the movie is anything to go by) sports subculture. Directed by Meneham Golan (but probably hijacked by Sly), It’s definitely cringeworthy as hell - reaching soap opera levels of melodrama - but I couldn’t help but see it through to the end (again, growing up with it helps on the nostalgia factor). Still, having kids of my own now adds greater depth, and there are moments during the father and son bonding stuff that had me close to tears I’m not afraid to admit.

Stallone’s Lincoln Hawk - I swear he’s cornered the market in great movie character names; Marion Cobretti, Ray Tango, John Spartan, John J. Rambo, Rocky Balboa to name some - mumbles his way through the entire movie, and David Mendenhall’s smartass Hawk Jnr. borders on insufferably irritating for the most part. Despite this, there are genuine moments of warmth amidst the melodrama as they get to know each other on the road - scored to a super cheesy, Giorgio Moroder, soft rock soundtrack. The main cast are rounded off nicely on the villainous front by a volcanic Robert Loggia - as Hawk Jnr’s perma-furious grandfather - and Rick Zumwalt as the fearsome, man mountain (and aptly named) Bob “Bull” Hurley. The finale tournament is great fun as the competitors look like pumped up, steroidal rejects from WWE, with a super dramatic last bout as Hawk overcomes the odds to defeat Bull Drago..I mean Hurley. Absolute tosh or 80s classic? It’s kind of both.

You may (or may not) want to decide for yourself as a quick search on Youtube should find a pretty decent download of the full movie (which is what I watched yesterday).

3/5
 
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top4719

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Avatar - 8/10 - 4k rewatch after a good few years, its still totally unoriginal, Worthington is still an uninspiring lead actor but as a slice of big budget popcorn entertainment its great, Pandora is one of the most beautifully rendered locations ever put to film and despite its length the action comes thick and fast.
 

Belzok

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Charlie's Angels - Sky Cinema

I've heard bad things about this one so hadn't rushed to watch it.

What can I say, I really enjoyed it. Popcorn movie for certain, and 40kg Angels throwing around bad guys is a good laugh.

Probably enjoyed this more that the 00s films, not a fan of Cameron Diaz.

6.75 glam jumpsuits out of 10 Bosleys
 

Stockholm

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Children of Dune - 2003 - Greg Yaitanes (also did the excellent Quarry recently)

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Haven't read the books this Syfy miniseries is based on so can't compare it to them but I can compare it to the original Dune adaptation by the Syfy channel and Children of Dune is a marked improvement over that one for me. It's better than it in terms of production values, set design, costuming (stillsuits aside), story, and acting. A freshly minted James McAvoy has the biggest role here as Leto Atreides, son of Paul and twin brother to his sister Ghanima. He plays Leto with a bit of a rascal's glint in his eye and there's also something ethereal about his performance here that is good fun to watch. Susan Sarandon is actually the one bum note as the scheming Princess Corrino, and Alec Newman (another Glaswegian like James McAvoy) improves upon his performance from the original Syfy adaptation of Dune as the wandering prophet who comes and goes like a sandstorm brushing through from the desert.

Two out of the three parts are really enjoyable while the other is still decent but has some pacing issues. The score is also excellent and serves the grandiose scope of the story well. If you're a fan of the Dune books then this is probably worth checking out, and if you're unfamiliar with the Dune saga but still fancy some good sci-fi then it's worth seeing after you've watched either David Lynch's Dune or the Syfy adaptation, but Lynch's film is the better of the two imo.
Just noticed that it's recently been added to Amazon Prime's video library for anyone interested in seeing some stories from the Dune universe this year.

Children of Dune

Still looking forward to Villeneuve's Dune but can't see it coming out this year.
 

Coz22998

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Now You See Me (2013, US iTunes, also streaming on UK Netflix)

Even with a fundamentally flawed premise - basing a film about magic tricks and shows when modern cinema is built around using CGI to literally show us anything, leaving us unsure if what we're seeing is magic or cinematic trickery - this is still a hugely entertaining romp.

Showing four low level magicians/con-men being recruited by a mysterious benefactor, before flashing forward 12 months to our gang performing at Vegas whereby they rob a bank in Paris whilst still being in the US, its a great hook to reel us into the central premise - these magicians are setting up a grand finale, piece by piece and its down to us, as well as the FBI, to try and work out what it is before it reaches its huge climax.

Breadcrumbs are dropped like a whodunit - some nifty (the link between the audiences and the marks at some of the shows), some a little too on the nose (I won't even say what they are due to it being so on the nose its a rather massive spoiler) - and the film, told from the POV of the FBI agents trying to also piece it all together and catch the Four Horseman as they're now named, is nicely structured to keep us constantly interested and guessing what's coming next: some of the twists are a little obvious and easily guessed, some are proper rug pull moments.....but even then, that's exactly the whole point of the film: sucker us in with misdirection by having us guess a few twists to lull us into thinking we know where its going, when really we have no clue at all.......

The cast are all great even if they all play themselves - Eisenberg is annoyingly cocksure, Harrelson is hilariously dry, Ruffalo terminally panicked, Laurent is the sexiest Frenchwoman ever to have lived, even Freeman is cool, calm and commanding...... - and always manage to keep us onside as the twists and turns start getting more and more outrageous. In fact, that flawed premise I mentioned at the start suddenly doesn't seem to matter at all, the magic on show being simply the dressing to the main meat of the film: the con, the heist, the 'prestige' if you will and us trying to piece it all together before the film shows us.

Its broad, sure, but that doesn't stop this being a rollocking two hours entertainment, even if its as shallow as a puddle. Perfect Saturday night entertainment.
 

systemsdead

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Shoeshine (1946) Directed by Vittorio De Sica
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Heartfelt stuff from De Sica once again this time capturing the lives of two young shoeshine boys working the streets of wartime Rome scrimping and scraping for family and the dream of owning a horse, soon trouble comes there way after being caught selling black market goods and the pair end up in a juvenile detention center, from here the friendship becomes broken as the two become separated and told different things from there cellmates, its all handled perfectly from the loyalty to the bitter feeling of betrayal and the whole sadness of the situation that these lost boys experience which is brilliantly played all the way through right to its gut-punch ending, performance-wise the kids are great and all do a fantastic job considering they are all first-time actors it also claims of being one of the earliest in the Italian neorealist movement, once again this is pure magic from De Sica and the film is rightly considered to be his first masterpiece.9/10
 

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