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Discussion in 'Hi-Fi Stereo Systems & Separates' started by Tejpal, Oct 21, 2002.

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    They should do the job just fine. In fact I wonder whether they are really just the same stands as most of the hifi shops sell for double the price.

    Yea they will be fine, fill them up 2/3s of the way with dry sand or lead shot (or even cat litter) and you'll be sorted with those.
     
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    Im shocked that they realy look quite nice! You could always try RS for alternatives.

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    Richer sounds 1 post gales stand cost £30 (£40 in silver finish)

    Im gonna get the argos one, seem to be very good value!
     
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    and £30 isnt exactly a loss if they dont sound good! let us know what they are like!

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    I've got a pair, they do look nice and work well.
    They are made by Acoustic Solutions btw.
     
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    Ive just bought some.

    They are nicely finished and very heavy !

    They look expensive, and sound quite good. (compared to my Nexus 6)

    They offer very good value for money.

    I definatly recommend them for speakers under £200
     
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    the nexus 6 always struck me as a little lightweight....... do you reckon these argos jobbys sound as good or etter?

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    i'd be very interested to hear how these compare with the likes of the Atacama SE24 stands as they cost twice as much and more, surely there has to be some compromises for stands costing half the price, or is it just that we are being ripped off with the likes of the se24's?
     
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    ive always thought the se24's to be good solid value and never considered them a rip off. When you get to partington dreadnaughts or their likes, that is when i start to think rip odd.

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    I was very surprised at the weight of these speaker stands. They are Heavy (about 10kg each With sand)

    I have tried them with my Cheapo Wharfedale Valvus 300's, And my B&W 302 S3's

    To be honest they sound very similar to my Nexus 6 stands.
    Except I think that they have abit more heavyweight sound. The lower midrange & upper bass is a bit more muddy, and bassy then the nexus. The Nexus sound abit lightweight and soft.

    Quality of materials I would give it 8/10
    Sound quality I would give it 7/10
    Value for money has to be 10/10

    I never knew the sound could change so much just by changeing the stand.

    I think you pay more for engineering and testing, And of course the Brand with the Atacama SE24 stands. I have the Nexus so I cant really compare.
     
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    Hmm, I think I'll still just get some SE24's, and then I can be sure of quality even if they cost more. I cant help but feel there must be some compromise with those stands, and I could do without a stand that makes it sound muddy, also the SE24's I have heard when they are filled with stands are probably 2 or 3 times the weight of that when filled with sand.
     
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    I have Gale 60's from RS filled with Kiln dried sand. I chose them because they were the tallest in there and I think they were about £70 Although I could be thinking of something else....

    So tell me, mine acre completely filled to the top, what difference should it make it they were not fully filled???


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    Why do speakers sound better on stands? If it's a matter of getting them to the right height, surely a shelf at the correct level will do just as well? And if it's all about putting them on something solid, a big heavy sideboard or wall unit should do the trick, right?

    Erm, no - not really. Yes, stands work through a combination of position and support, but they also isolate the speakers and keep them absolutely still - and asking your shelves to do that is just too much. If you've small speakers, unless they're among a small group specifically tuned for wall-mounting they'll sound best on stands.

    As a general rule, the right stand for your speakers will raise them to a height where the tweeter (the little treble driver) is at ear-height when you sit in your usual listening position. Some manufacturers tune their speakers to be positioned higher or lower than this, however, so check first.

    Similarly, the best stand is usually a hefty stand, though some speakers are designed to be used on lightweight open-frame supports. The other purpose of the stand is to keep the speaker still, so that some of the energy of the drive units isn't wasted in moving the whole speaker back and forth by minute distances. Remember school physics...?

    To that end, the use of spikes on the stand helps locate it solidly to the floor, by piercing carpets without damaging them. They also let you level the stand by adjustment of the spikes. On hardwood floors you can avoid damage by putting a penny coin - or old ha'pennies if you can still find them - under each spike.

    Meanwhile on very resonant boarded floors a paving slab under each stand will also help. Top-spikes on stands help by locating the speakers rigidly, while minimising the contact between speaker and stand.

    Alternatively, blobs of Blu-Tack between will have a similar, but sometimes sonically different, effect - experiment! Filling stands with sand, lead shot or proprietary materials like Sound-Bytes adds mass, and also deadens resonances, stopping the stands ringing'.

    If you're going to use sand, use kiln-dried silver sand - not that very yellow builder's sand that's much cheaper or a few bucketfuls off a beach or from the kids' sandpit. Moisture in the sand can rust metal stands and warp wooden ones.

    Floorstanding speakers also benefit from spikes and mass-loading (where this is designed in). But be careful when fitting spikes to floorstanders: the threaded inserts that take the spikes can twist out of the cabinet material if you overtighten things. Use a spike-spanner, and use it carefully!

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