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What attributes make a good Plasma

Discussion in 'Plasma TVs' started by bigtired, Nov 20, 2004.

  1. bigtired

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    Can anyone point me to anywhere on the web that gives an idiots guide
    on what to look for in specifications etc that would define whether a
    plasma is good or not. Or if not could some kind soul rattle off a
    few 'must haves'. I really want to treat myself to a plasma but am a
    bit scared because I don't know enough about them. There is a plasma for
    sale at Tiny http://homecinema.tiny.com/index.php at £1199. Why would
    this be good/not good say compared with this Panasonic
    http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/specpage.html?PAN-PLA2

    Justin
     
  2. samtotham99

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    the panasonic is ALOT better and for an AMAZING price.
     
  3. bigtired

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    Thanks for the reply - why is the Panasonic better? Thats the info I am after - the Pansonic is better because .................. its got this, that, the other etc etc. Help!
     
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    ...it's got a panasonic badge on the front.

    some people know how to make plasmas, and some people don't.
    all the plasma specs are just salemans fluff, they dunno what's in em
    & don't care as long as they can make another sale.
     
  5. Liam @ Prog AV

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    Unfortunately while specifications can give you an idea if a product is not up to scratch, it really isn't the way to buy a plasma. e.g. the two most popular models at the moment are Panasonic and Pioneer, contrast ratio seems to be the big thing at the moment (light intensity from black to white) and the Panasonic runs at 4000:1 to the Pioneers 1200:1, yet both are equally liked, both offer very different pictures, both are equally good but in different departments. Basically stick to Fujitsu, NEC, Panasonic, Pioneer and you should be safe. I would get a peak at the models available in Currys to see the fundamental differences between the big ones, then get onto a dealer who knows what all these weird and wonderful bits of vocabulary actually mean!!!
     
  6. bigtired

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    Thanks Liam @ Prog AV,

    I was really beginning to think that this Forum had gone to the dogs regrding help etc. I will do as you say. I also have had a look at you web site - very cool.
     
  7. cwoj

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    It really depends on what you want. When i started looking at plasma’s i knew nothing...and compared to others still do... :lesson:

    But i quickly established two major camps... :D Camp one had displays...these were screens without tuners and speakers. They tend to be favored by the majority of people on here. Displays offer certain advantages such as lower costs (in relation to the same brand tv) and more flexibility (choice of different cards / speakers). Displays are ideal for people who are using an amp to drive the speakers for the display. I suspect some technical know how is required in setting this lot up! :clown:

    Camp two go for traditional TV’s. These have built in speakers (or attachable ones) and a TV tuner (some times referred to as a media box). The TV’s often come into play for people who’s family are possibly non technical or just want a basic TV operation without having to press six buttons on three remotes first. :confused: :confused:

    When I started looking, I initially looked at specs alone and was completely hung up on having a HD panel with HDMI, but alas I also didn’t have the 4K required for such a screen at the time. Recommendations from others said…go look at screens and let your eyes judge…so off I went……straight down the road to Currys…and to be honest I would have stayed with my old crt if the images I saw was anything to go by. Most plasmas looked terrible and it was very hard to compare like for like images. One store had a Pioneer playing finding nemo via hdmi V’s a Samsung on a poor RF feed :eek: … certainly it was no way to judge one against the other as the paying field wasn’t fair to start with….So off I tootled to the specialist shops, who in fairness have limited space, so I only saw what screens they were selling or had stock off at the time. However it became evident that the specialist shops tended to stock the Pioneers, fujitsuis, NEC’s & Panasonics. So I spent a few months asking stupid questions on this forum and reading what others were saying. I found that most gave a big no no to ALiS screens… :thumbsdow although am sure others would argue with that. Also that contrast was key to any panel. Its fair to say that the majority on here love the Panasonics and this is kind of backed up with some of the av mags, which is strange as I noted hat most people held little value in the magazine reviews?? :censored:

    So I looked at a few screens, but kept being drawn back to the Panasonic, but I needed a TV and not a display, as I didn’t want my wife and kids firing up the amp and using the kef 9000 speakers for cbbc!!! So I bought the Viera. Not the best value for money when you consider that I could have bought a HD Display with HDMI, but then I needed more than a screen with simplicity of operation and non dependency on other equipment as a very important factor. With my decision made as to which screen to buy, I was just a question of finding the right deal. I always feel like this when buying a car…scared to be ripped off and hell bent on finding the best deal, luckily I stumbled upon the John Lewis Price match thread and watched it for a few days. Eventually I started calling round and found a deal that I was very happy with (42” Viera, Stand & DMRE85 for £2698.00) with the famous 5 Year Parts and Labour Warranty!! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

    IMHO I think you use a combination of demo’s, spec sheets, AV mag reviews and comments on here, then take the plunge. You will never have the best ever screen (unless your rich!!) but you will have a cracking unit. Your will never be as up to date as you want to be, as developments are always round the corner!!! So buy now, enjoy and then review in 3/5/10 years!!! I am as excited as hell about getting mine delivered…wife thinks I’m weird for getting giddy about a TV!!! :D

    Just my tuppence worth :(
     
  8. bigtired

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    Dear cwoj,

    Thanks for the advice - you took a lot of effort to provide me with help. It is greatly appreciated. I think the Viera is too expensive for me. I was looking at circa £1500+. On the basis that I only need a display (I think) cos I only use the current TV to watch Sky + and DVDs, and I have a Sony home theatre with DVD amp speakers etc any suggestions around my budget mark?

    Thanks

    Justin
     
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    Then you cant really go wrong with the PWD6, its highly rated on here and my the mags. It’s the same panel that the viera is based upon, so if you already have the amp etc and are after a display then its a cracking unit. AV-sales have a good reputation for good customer service and support and they do a free pixel check before sending them out.

    They can give you all the right info for which boards you may require, however I am led to believe that you can you s a JS tech Scart to VGA converter for the best connection for a sky box.
     
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    Thanks cwoj
     
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    to be honest buy it, for 1500 its a fantastic screen and you wont get better for that sort of money. i've just paid 2698 for the same unit, but with a tuner.....i think you would be chuffed to bits...saying that i am still waiting for mine!!!

    Good luck anyway, let me know how you get on!!
     
  12. Todda

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    Some very good advice from cwoj.

    For the money you are looking at you only have two choices.

    1. Buy the PW6
    2. Wait for the price of plasmas to come down.

    No other plasmas come close for that kind of money st this time.

    Cheers
     

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