Discussion in 'Motoring' started by golfvr6, Mar 15, 2006.
Got to go for the mk2 gti 16v, mk3 vr6, mk4 tdi 130 and 150, and of course the R32
the mk I and the mk II 16v are the only true golf gtis, the G60 is pretty awesome too
MkI is my faveourite , loved it since i was a kid and the MK II G60 is awesome too! a mate of mine had one brilliant car!
I used to own a mk2 16v, cracking car.
Although my current mk3 vr6 is a belter
The original Golf GTI was a motoring icon paving the way for a whole host of competitors, doing an untold amount of damage to the sports car industry in the process, which it all but killed off
In my opinion the original car was the perfect four seater "sports car" with an unbeatable combination of speed and poise that has never been bettered or even equalled by later versions.
Later versions have lost their way and although the more modern Golf GTI is faster and more luxurious they are also heavier and more expensive and have none of the poise and balance of the original version.
Golf MK1 obviously. GTI 16V MKII. The UK version of the MK3 GTI 8V was a little lame. No one seems bothered about MK4, though the 150BHP TDI is impressive. I don't have any experience of MK5. Oh and the VR6 was good, but the front wheel drive version was only any good in a straight line, otherwise it was donut city if you used any real power.
I'd agree that the mk1 Golf GTi was an icon. But I don't accept that it killed off the sports car: that was already in decline when the GTi arrived. I would say that lack of investment in r&d killed off the British sports cars, particularly in terms of meeting crash and emissions regulations.
By the mid 70's, MG and Triumph were producing slow, expensive sports cars, some of which were troublesome to own. A little more investment would have helped them keep pace with the 'hot hatches'.
I don't really like Mk2, 3 or 4 Golfs: they were all a bit stodgy compared with the mk1. The new mk5 looks quite nice, just because it's borrowed some mk1 features, and I love a bit of retro. But in styling terms, none of the Golfs have really been 'all that': they're pretty bland, really.
Aaaahhhhh,1981,left Uni,got a job,no overheads,bought a black 1600cc 4 speed Mk1 gti .Happy days.No other golf has come close.Everything about it seemed perfect,though perhaps my glasses have a certain rosy tint.The only thing that upset me was all the women were swooning over my friend's white capri 2 litre S while I knew I had the better performance!Still,after a while they all realised what I,sorry,I mean it,was capable of.
MK3 VR6 and the first TDI's (which I used to have). After that they got too bloated and uninvolving to drive until the new GTI and R32 came out recently.
I agree with Ian J on the whole.
For me the original was the best, this means the Mk1, although I havent driven it I suspect the 5-speed 1.8 version was the best.
The Mk2 was also good, but a bit heavier, but the 16v version got a good engine.
Mk3 and 4? Forget about it! Not in any guise. Especially not diesel, ***, you cant have a GTI diesel, it goes against the whole ethos of a sporty car (and before any smoggies jump on me, I've owned a diesel hot hatch - never again).
The Mk5 is the best since the Mk2, but like so many cars these days, its big, bloated, heavy and has a boring turbocharged engine that requires no really effort from the driver to get the best out of.
The MkII 1.3CL. It could be run on 2 star, be serviced with a leatherman and be routinely parked in the sea and still run. Next to the Toyota Hilux it is one of motoring's survivors.
The original and MkII GTIs were superb cars,and of the current ones the R32 is good if a bit on the bloated side,as are all of the new models.
It's a shame often that as a car goes through various models and the yrs progress,they often get larger and fatter,and lose a lot of what made them special in the first place.
The Mk1 cabriolet is the best Golf by far
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The problem with full blown hot-hatches is that it goads you into driving like an asshole, especially when you have a 1.8 turbocharged engine in a sardine can.
In the end I was glad to get rid of my Cupra (asides from the long list of breakdowns I had with it), as it turned me into a bit of a jeckyl and hyde driver. Quite happy in my plod along diesel these days, much more relaxing
Too true...that eventually had a BMI well into the morbidly obese range and could hardly move in straight lines let alone round corners.
Thankfully Nissan have slimmed the 350 down a bit,although I'm quite happy with my current runabout.
loving my mkV 2.0GTTDI DSG! 60MPG average! great ride/quality/size/looks
I dont agree. THat is an issue with self restraint, not the car itself.
I dont have this problem - I drive like an asshole in any car
I have had 2 VWs. They both broke down a lot. Most unreliable cars I have ever known.
You've used that quote before
I have a leatherman wave I wear most of the time, and have used it to routinely repair both my cars
I don't have this problem, I have a big Merc Sprinter to let off steam at other motorists in
The problem with mk1's is they aren't quick enough
For me its gotta be the Mk2 but i am biased having a MKII GTD but although the MKI is the original and arguably the fastest due to its size and weight it all goes wrong for me when you look at the back looks too haked for me and so I pefer Mk2 lol
At least they go around corners!
An optimistic 120 mph on the speedo with the roof down was enough for me in my 1800 clipper
Needs the exhaust manifold sorting now though and my normal mechanic said they break on removal So even a gasket change is going to cost loads to do. Please tell me that this is not the case, as summers coming and I want to rag about again.
Untill 4 days ago i had a 2002 mk4 golf 4motion (2.8 24v 4 wheel drive)
fantastic car to drive.... but then on thursday it got nicked
Mk2's go around corners well, mk3's and 4's need a bit of 'help' with the suspension
Why would the exhaust manifold break on removal?
You cant beat a well tuned and fettled mk2 16v golf
Thats what baffled me, he reckoned that due to the heat the literally fuse themselves on and when you lever them off they crack.
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