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What amp should I get?

Discussion in 'AV Receivers & Amplifiers' started by reggiewac, Nov 30, 2003.

  1. reggiewac

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    I have stumbled across a set of Gale speakers. Now I know these aren't the best in the world, but they sound fine to me!


    The question is - which amp should I get that will work well with them?
    The two fronts are 100W, the two rear are di-polar 80W and the centre is 90W. I also have a sub that is 80W I think.
    I don't want to spend a fortune, because I don't think the speakers justify it, but I don't really want anything really cheap and nasty either.

    Any suggestions would be great, because as far as I can make out this subject is an absolute minefield!

    Cheers,
    Reggie
     
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    What sort of money? £100, £200, £500
    For cheap cheap see richersounds website.
    What else do you have DVD, TV wise etc PS2/GC/XBOX/N64???
     
  3. reggiewac

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    OK. Forgot about all of that. I a little new to this game!

    TV is a Panasonic TX32PS12
    DVD is a Pioneer464
    PS2 also.
    NTL cable box.

    I have a Canbridge Audio DAB500 , and a Phillips 753 CD player, but I was considering leaving them on my stereo amp.

    Maybe want to spend £250-£350, but would spend more if anybody think my existing hardware justifies it.

    Thanks.
     
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    Is that not a surround sound television you own?

    For ridiculously cheap prices, Marantz's SRx300/SRx400 range makes sense, which would probably match your speakers well.

    I did hear some gale speakers in a richer sounds store once with a Sony STRDB780 amp, which sounded surprizingly - almost shockingly - good. Perhaps this (or it's replacement - the STRDB790) would be equally as suitable.
     
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    I'll take a look at those amps cheers. I am willing to spend as much as it takes to get the best out of what I have already got. I really don't have the funds to start replacing stuff that basically works fine.
    What I am after is something that will make me grin a little bit when I sit down and watch a film!

    You're all very friendly and helpful in here aren't you!! Thanks.

    Oh yeah - The telly is just plain old, boring stereo.
     
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    I have just read in what hi-fi that my dvd player is well matched to the Pioneer VSX-C301-S. But will its output of 5x50W match my speakers. It is also really cheap at about £250. A bad thing?

    Once again, your opinions are much valued.
     
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    have a look at PIO 712 and 812 models
     
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    Aesthetically very well matched, yes.

    The VSX-C301 will certainately be capable of driving your speakers, but obviously it won't be able to quite so well as larger A/V Receivers. I doubt you'll be disappointed with the sound however.
     
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    there is also the 501 very similar to 301 but higher spec.
     
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    And 6.1 capable I believe :).
     
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    Have a look on ebay. The Mid price sonys and Denons come out at around the price you're looking for. The excellent Denon 2802 usually goes for around £250 as does the Sony DB1080. I picked up a Denon 3801 for a mate for £250. All of these have plenty of grunt, much more than a new budget AV amp.
     
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    As it goes, the guy who I got the rear speakers from (on ebay) is selling a Denon 2802 as well. Somewhere in this forum in fact! It is 18 months old and going for £250.
    What do you guys think? Value? Too old?
    I have kind of fallen for the Pioneer 501.
     
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    Hello reggie. I have a diff name on here Fazerthou
     
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    Reaggie - the AVR2802 is certainately a worthwhile receiver.

    Not to nudge your spendature any higher, but you can probably get an AVR3802 for around £300 in these very forums...

    Tempting, isn't it.
     
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    Right then-

    I'm down to the following.

    A Pioneer 301, maybe not enough whoooomf
    A Pioneer 501, has the whole 6.1 thing, but maybe too powerful for my speakers?
    Sony STRDB790

    Or second hand-
    A Denon 2802, or 3802.

    So do I go for a nice new shiney one, or a more meaty older one.


    As a beginner (totally!), do you not think I would benefit from the Pioneer's auto set up function?
     
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    Had no idea the VSX-x01 series has the MCCAC, Reggie :).

    You can't really buy an amp too 'powerful' for your speakers, and don't read too much into the paper specs of the VSX-C501, which probably doesn't deliver more than 30wpc, despite pioneer's 'Cooked Up' efforts.
     
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    "2 x 75 W (8 Ohm, 1% THD, 1 kHz)"

    75 Watts Per Channel, into two channels (i.e. In Stereo at any one time), into an 8 Ohm load. With 1% Distortion, which, btw, is far too much for listening to.

    "RMS Power (1kHz, 10%THD, 8 Ohm/ch) 100 W "

    100WPC into two channels, with 10% distortion, which is completely unlistenable, and the amp won't output this anyway.

    "Rated Power Output 100 W / ch (1 kHz, 10 %, 6 Ohm RMS) "

    100W into two channels with 6 Ohm loads and 10% Distortion at a 1KHZ frequency - again, a load of nonsense.

    My original estimate was probably close to the actual figures. When driving five or more channels, the amp will output something closer to 25 WPC. This is loud enough for most listening needs, but it's hardly 'Muscular'.

    The AVR2802 and 3802s you're thinking of buying will knock the VSX-C501 dead for sound quality.
     
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    :) I would heartily concure!!!! Don't forget the 2802 is hardly an "old un", being only two years on the market, it's just that in the AV world people seem to be moving onwards an upwards VERY fast. Much more so than than in standard Hi-Fi.
     

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