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What 7.1 set-up can I get for £1,000, £1,500, £2,000 & £2,500

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  1. Brogan

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    I've decided to replace all of my speakers as they are the oldest and weakest part of my system.

    I'm currently running a 7.1 set-up so I'd like to continue with that if possible.

    Can anyone therefore recommend a 7.1 set of speakers for £1,000, £1,500, £2,000 and £2,500 respectively?
    This doesn't include a sub woofer so would only be for L, R, C, 2 x surrounds & 2 x rear; basically a matching set of 7 speakers.

    The fronts have to be floorstanders as I just prefer them to bookshelf speakers and always listen to music without the sub.

    I guess I'm looking at Kefs for one but I'm not sure if I can get M&K's and B&W's for that price.

    Does anyone have a shortlist that I can go out and demo?
     
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    If the fronts have to be floorstanders thats M&K out of the running. For movie sounds however the M&K S150's are just superb and so are some of their speakers lower down the range.

    The M&K column surrounds are also great but expensive. I have changed my set up a number of times but continue to use the column surrounds as I havent come across anything better.

    B&W wise something like the 700 series come to mind but again if you want floorstanders for the front then £2500 may not be enough. I personally would steer well clear of the 600 series - Kef Q's are a better listen in my opinion.
     
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    I didn't realise that M&K's were only bookshelfs so thanks for that bit of info'.

    I really don't want to go the route of separate hi-fi and home cinema set-ups so I guess that leaves Kefs, Wharfedales? and possibly B&W's then?
     
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    Just edited my original post with a bit more info.
     
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    Hmmmm, seems I'm a bit out of touch with speakers.
    I though £2,500 would be more than enought for a decentish set-up...
     
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    £2500 is more than enough for a good speaker set - I was referring to the 700 series specifically - the floorstanders start at £1400 retail I think.

    Actually thinking about it again you may be able to do it - 704's + Centre + 705's + DS6's = 1400 + 500 + 900 + 500 = £3300 - less 20% discount = just a tad over £2,600. Also you could substitute the rear speakers for cheaper alternatives. The other problem is your AX5 may struggle to drive all of that lot.

    I personally dont like anything lower on the B&W side. The Kef Q series on the other hand is worth considering - its in a similar price bracket to the 600 series but sounds sweeter.
     
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    Aaarghhh! Now you're really scaring me :rolleyes:
    I hadn't even considered that the AX5 wouldn't be up to the job... :(

    I just tried the B&W configurator and it came to just under £9,000 :D :laugh:
    Which is just a tad over the total cost of my plasma, amp, DVD player, cables, interconnects, stand and sofa :rotfl:

    Looks like I've got some homework to do... :rolleyes:
     
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    It is. If you like B&W their 602.5 S3 are available at £400 per pair or 603 S3 at £600 per pair and a matching centre and B&W bookshelf speakers at the rear will come in well under your budget.

    There are similar permutations available for KEF too.

    Don't write off bookshelf speakers on the basis that you like to listen to music with no sub as most bookshelf speakers are fullish range anyway with only the studio monitor types like M&K cutting off at 80Hz
     
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    Hi Brogan,
    I have the M&K 851 Speakers but they are mounted on LDM stands, here is a link

    www.mksound.com/stands_brackets3.php

    The 851 LCR will cost approx £1500 plus £450 for the LDM stands but you should be able to get some discount and IMHO they look really smart, lots of my mates who have seen them have said so and even my girlfriend likes them :smashin:
    I agree with Rags on the fact that M&K Column Surrounds are fantastic speakers and i would not part with mine even if i do upgrade to the S150's.

    I think for movies i have not heard a better setup than the M&K's and they also sound good in stereo aswell :cool:

    John :)
     
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    Thanks for the info'; I'll check them out.

    I know I shouldn't discount bookshelf speakers but I've always had floorstanders and I just prefer them for the main speakers, even if there is no logical reason to.
    I'm sure there are bookshelf speakers that sound just as good but....
     
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    See, now that's where I get turned off bookshelf speakers!
    £450 for a pair of stands!
    If I was going to spend £2,000 on a pair of front speakers, I wouldn't be spending a quarter of it on stands.
    Sorry but I just can't appreciate wasting £2,000 on a pair of small speakers and some over-priced stands, no matter how good they are.

    I'm sure they do but I'm afraid they're not for me.
     
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    Brogan hope you find what you want :smashin:

    John :)
     
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    Thanks for that hornydragon.
    I must confess to having a small soft spot for Wharfedale, even if they aren't considered to be as hi-fi or good as some other makes.

    I trialled a pair of the Evo 30's last December but found them a little bit bassy.
    I was impressed with the build quality and solidity of them though; they seemed like a well put together speaker.

    Sensitivity of the fronts on those 40's is a bit lower than I'd like - my current ones are 91dB which makes them very easy to drive.
    The centre only goes down to 80Hz too so presumably it would have to be set as SMALL?
    And if I had a choice, I'd prefer surrounds and rears that I could fix to the wall; the Evo 10's seem a bit big for that?

    I don't want much do I? :D

    How would the Evo 40's stack up against my current speakers?
    I've no doubt the fronts are better but what about the Mission centre and dipole surrounds?

    What about an equivalent set of Kefs?
    What would I be looking at there?
     
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    Brogan

    I'll put my 2p worth in and suggest Monitor Audio (not biased - honest :D ), the Bronze, Silver and Gold ranges have plenty of choice.

    Personally I would go GR20 (floorstanders), GRC (centre), 2 pairs Sfx (dipole/bipole surrounds). RRP about £2800 I think so with a bit of a haggle you should be in budget. I have driven my GR20's etc using my 2011 with decent results and no problems.

    7oaks special offers website often has good deals on MA.

    Gus
     
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    i demoed Wharfedale MA and B&W all at sevenoaks a while ago, personally prefered the B&W sound, but the look of the wharfdales blew me away..... Have a very old pair of diamonds for a stereo and they sound so good i decided not to spend the money....

    http://www.creative-audio.co.uk/KEFQ7sys.htm
    Bargain........ not heard them but sexy and good VFM.... see if you can get a demo.
     
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    Thanks for the suggestion Gus.
    I'll certainly check them out.
     
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    I agree on the Wharfedales; they are a lovely looking speaker.

    That looks like a nice set-up.
    If I can get them to drop the speaker wire, sub lead and sub-woofer I could be interested, after a demo of course.
     
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    stupid question but isnt shipping this lot to turkey gonna cost shed loads????
     
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    Shipping costs are about £200 per cubic metre.
    A set of fronts and 4 surrounds takes up 0.28 cubic metres although with boxes it will probably be closer to 0.5 so that will cost about £100.

    So the shipping cost to value ratio makes it worth it, considering they will be much more expensive in Turkey, if you can even find them.
     
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    Have you checked the charges that gumruk are likely to charge normally for these type of goods import duty is set at 100% of price paid, hence why all electrical goods are expensive in Turkey
     
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    As they are household items and my wife is a returning Turkish citizen with 5 years out of the country, there is no tax to pay.
    The only tax we will have to pay will be 'bandrol' tax on the Plasma, amp and DVD player but this is relatively inexpensive at a few hundred pounds (considering the cost of the items).
    We have verified this with the Turkish Embassy here in London.

    Of course, I'm sure the customs officer will require a little 'persuasion' to facilitate the passage of our goods... :rolleyes:
     
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    Tannoy R3 and RC would be worth a look as they are heavily discounted now. They have real wood finish and are a good for hifi. Tannoy rears cheap but not so great but you could alway buy a different make for the rears. If you can be patient some great speaker packages come up for sale in the forums every now and again.
     
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    Suggest you take some more stuff (PW7 for bedroom with you and then decide you dont need them when you get there.........and sell them locally?
    one thing to consider (might have mentioned this before) is hot countries have very hard surfaces stone floors etc which has a very negative effect on SQ
     
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    :D

    That's already been discussed on this very forum and I believe the solution was a lot of hamsters :D
     
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    Wildcard time :). Epos- I heard a seven speaker pack of their M22, M8c and 4xM5 which comes in at about £2000. It is one of the most refreshingly impressive sounding packs (and handsome too) that I've encountered in a while. An AX5 will drive it fine to boot. I also wouldn't ignore the Mission 780se and up components as they are still my favourite Missions.
     
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    Thanks for the suggestion Tons.
    I'll look into them both.
     
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    I called my local dealer to see what they recommended and what was available for demo.
    I knew I was wasting my time but thought I'd at least give them a chance...:rolleyes:

    They recommended:
    Fronts: Totem Staffs?
    Centre: Rainmaker?
    Surrounds: Dreamcatchers?

    Unfortunately they don't have a Rainmaker in stock so I'd only be able to demo with a different centre.
    They also don't have a 7.1 setup so it would only be 5.1 with 1 pair of surrounds.

    I've never heard of any of those speakers.
    Are they any good?

    Is everyones local dealer as bad as mine?
     
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    Totem are brill. They wouldn't be my first choice mainly because I haven't the faintest idea what they cost. They are superb loudspeakers however- the Totem room at Heathrow rapidly became one of my favourite places to be.
     
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    I've never experienced them so can't comment.
    Here's a link that will give you an idea of prices though.
    They seem to be slightly more expensive than Kef and Wharfedale but cheaper than B&W.
     

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