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Discussion in 'Music & Music Streaming Services' started by digisocialist, Feb 15, 2005.

  1. digisocialist

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    Alphabetically (Title / Artist / Label)
    Picture Sleeve (Design / Colour)
    Date of acquisition
    Date of production / release
    Format
    Genre
    Major periods of musical history
    Priority for future listening
    Continent or country

    ... all might be stable classifications and in practice it is a combination of these modes of classification, whose relative weighting, resistance to change, obsolescence and persistence give every library a unique personality.

    I myself am in the Provisional Classification phase with all of my records and therefore have nothing more than a library in chaos with a it's own term of classification.

    Does anyone actually have the time, energy, patience to arrange their records into relative order?
     
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    I list my entire collection by Artist/Album release date. The best way to keep track! :oops:
     
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    I list my CDs that way too, however the physical reality is somewhat different.

    Between house and car there's five cd players with a pile of discs around each. Then in the main storage are there's all the misplaced discs because the wife or I were too pi**ed / couldn't be bothered to put them back in the right place. Then there's the various cases without discs / discs without cases / wrong discs in wrong cases etc.. Every 3-4 months I spend an hour or two sorting it all out and the cycle starts again.

    If I'm desperate to listen to hear a missing CD I've got them all on Ipod, but who wants to listen to compressed music at home :thumbsdow.

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    I've got all my cds ripped at atleast 192k MP3 onto CDRs. Can generally fit about 7-10 albums on a disc, and I've got an MP3 capable stereo in the car, and my DVD player (which plays MP3s) hooked up to the Aux channel on my stereo so I can listen to them properly. That way, my CDs stay in one place and the cases dont get scratched and discs dont go missing :thumbsup:
     
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    ah.. but are they classified, catagorised and ordered in a manner that leads you directly to the track you wish to listen to in an instant or, like me and I suspect most people, is it a loosely catagorised library, in fact in chaos?

    May I digress? O.K., thanks. It's also apparent that as technology allows improvements in the data storage field and accessing data becomes integrated, that we are naturally inclined to wish to maximise the potential. In reality though if truly maximised can it be exploited? In other words, you may be able to store 10,000 albums on a relatively small library (physically) but you can not realistically listen to said volume in the available time to you; nor I suspect have the available time to browse it to see what you have stored on it.

    This is not unique to MP3's, it can and has happened in the analogue world of Vinyl. I do know people with vast libraries, unclassified but perhaps more soberingly with not the available time in their lives to listen to the contents of their libraries.

    Back to the theme of the thread....

    I see classification and then arranging one's music in a combination of your chosen modes of classification as desirable. It is probably easier to do with digital music, such as an MP3 on a digital device such as an IPOD. Personally however I prefer the tactile world of the Vinyl Record and CD case. Thumbing one's collection brings an added pleasure to the experience I don't see would be possible with the electrical storage device... though I don't own one so I shan't be totally resistant to the possibilities the format holds.

    What I need now actually is some good Vinyl cases to store my records in properly... erm and a labelling machine.. :eek:
     
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    Agree with all but the last bit. ;) Couldn't care less about MP3's. Having a stack of 'backed up' CD's in the car for long journeys is more than adequate. In the house there's no need for them (waits for howls of protest!).

    I've arranged a fairly large vinyl and CD collection, as above by Alpha, then release date. I have to admit it's really saved time in hunting down what I want! It's also aided in 'pruning'. For a track, musician, and album guide and an even better way to 'prune', get Terry Hounsomes (Rock Record) latest toy, the RockRom. I've catalogued my entire collection using the database, and its both easy to use and fairly intuitive. The only annoyance is that bands with abbreviated names can sometimes be different to what you expect. But a little common sense.......... I would recommend it to anyone trying to sort out what they've got, on what, and what they no longer play, or will ever do so again!!

    I discovered a few Rick Wakeman albums and Wings in there!! Goodbye to them! :D
     
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    Arranged purely on Chaos theorum- most popular material stored in a vertical stack aside my turntable. Never taken me more than a minute to find something.
     
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    A few factors make the MP3 on CD solution the best for me:

    1. IPODs are stupidly expensive;
    2. I'm living away from my CD collection, which makes taking it with me quite difficult :rolleyes:
    3. I collect (I use the term loosely) promos and limited editon releases, many of which are stored in plastic sleeves to protect the case/box. This makes putting a CD on a bit of a chore, and I prefer to keep the artwork, case and disc nicely looked after.

    I have no real categorisation process, other than alphabetical artist order. I would say though that I have consolodated my collection down to stuff that I REALLY like. There is no dross or sentimental stuff in there (IMO), only the stuff that interests me, so it is not maybe as vast as some others'.
     
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    Applies to me Flooded statue. ;) My brother has an MP3 system in his car and uses them all the time. He hasn't a huge music collection, is always on the road, and isn't that worried about quality. Fine for him, fine for you.

    I find the quality of MP3 too poor to be bothered with, and don't enjoy (in the least) compilations, hence I have no mixed artist comps at all and very few single artist compilations. Each to his/her own.

    Looks like I was right:-
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    :rolleyes: Not so much howls of protest, rather elaboration of my earlier vagueness :D
     
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    ToF - I think the Chaos Therum may be an undervalued mode of classification, if indeed it can be prescribed to the activity itself; philosophically it can be surely. I think we humans have a natural affinity with chaos and suspect the Chaos Therum lends itself to bizarre order anyway... (watch the mathematicions come out and flame me!). Yes, I think my brain too finds it incredibly easy to find things which have been randomly placed about the library.... Still, I would like the idea of a properly classified and organised library.
     
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    I used that very therum for years, in the end I gave up as it was too chaotic................ :D No, but seriously, I did work that way for a long while, what gets used the most in pile 'A' etc. But, as the pile got bigger, the faster I lost track. In the end (grudgingly) the alpha method was adopted.

    :laugh:
     
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    Format first. My MD's are seperate from my CDs as they don't fit in the respective rack!

    Then sectioned into albums, compilations and soundtracks. Within each it's alphabetised by artist and within that, album title.

    The main downfall of digital music for me is that you can't browse your collection - you have to know what you want to listen to whilst when staring at my CDs (in a fruit box!) I can scan the lot and often pick out something which I otherwise wouldn't have thought of. :)
     
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    Evil - totally agree with that view. I too have all too often walked over to my collection only to pick out something totally unexpected; maybe it's the spine colour or just that the said record is slightly sticking out from an earlier and rather untidy replacement which has prompted it's current selection... nevertheless for me I find this better than a digital catalogue.

    Does anyone know of good vinyl storage boxes? I need to start properly storing my vinyl. I'm thinking boxes as the modularity approach provides most flexibility for the intended space. There's a film, I think it's called 'Ghost World' where some geeky guy who collects old 78's stores his vinyl on shelves which appear to be custom made for keeping vinyl immaculate. There may be tiny spacers between each vinyl slot so as no pressure is made to a neighboring record from an another. Any ideas on vinyl storage solutions such as these? I know this is a tangent from the thread..so apologies.

    btw - evil, also enjoyed reading the granularity of your catagorisation approach..nice :smashin:
     
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    Glad you liked it, I don't understand why anybody would order them in any other way! Admittedly I've only got about 200 to store so it's quite the nightmare that others have and there are only about 8 compilations and 1 soundtrack.

    I know that VHS and vinyl need to be stored vertically to ensure their longevity. I've also heard that CDs and DVDs should be stored vertically. Can someone confirm this to me with reasons? :)
     
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    My CD rack is horizontal!! :confused: The only thing I could think of is if they were stacked on top of one another, then the flimsy cases might sag and buckle the discs. Any other thoughts?
     
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    Found this http://www.spybox.co.uk/. it provides the modular solution I was looking for. Still, would be nice to store records in their own grooves within a box like this. Does anyone know of any good storage boxes that records can be displayed in such as these?
     
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    I arrange them alphabetically by artist, and then each album chronologically. Saying that though, I don't have an awfully large number of albums, but I do find the time to organise them in some way. It's nice looking at a neat stack of albums that you just know are in good order.
     
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    BlueOrange... You should check out Relics in Leeds for some tasty Vinyl morsels, if you wish to build up that Vinyl collection. That said, be warned, Relics can be a little on the expensive side for their Vinyl and you need to be pretty sharp about what your'e buying.. Jumbo is great for new Vinyl, though I'm not sure if Jumbo is still operating?
     
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    CDs'/SACDs/DVD-A's

    Alphabetically and chronolgically
    Re-issues next to orginal issue in chronilogical order
    Mc and Mac before M

    Vinyl

    Alphabetically and chronolgically and by country
    Mono then stereo then re-issue
    eg : Beatles - :uk: chronoligical mono, stereo, re-issues then :us: m,s,r then :ca: s,m,r then the Euro countries m,s,r then :jp: m,s,r etc, etc

    Where's me anorak :hiya:
     
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    Kenny - You are the master, I am but the apprentice! What do you store your vinyl in? Do you think the spybox posted above is worthwhile?

    btw.. have a challenge for you. Can you track down a vinyl record called 'The Wind That Shakes The Barley' by Gallery. It was a private pressing I believe. Would be interested to see if it can be picked up cheapley...though suspect not.
     
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    If I found that I'd be happy to sell you it! :D You've probably seen this but if not ...

    http://psychedelicfolk.homestead.com/KISSINGSPELL.html

    I store my LPs in MDF cubes at the moment as I will be moving (for the last time ever hopefully!) in the next 18 months. My 2000+ CDs are on shelves and the vinyl will join them once settled.
     
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    Sorry missed the Spybox question :oops:

    They look very good and very similar to mine except they are not 80's black MDF :eek: Like the 7" boxes :smashin:
     
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    Kenny - Haven't seen kissingspell before. Wow! There are some rare numbers on there. My local record shop has the Gallery LP in but they're wanting £600 for it... I was kind of hoping there'd be copies around who's owners didn't know their value and would just palm them off as some old folk record... if only.

    ..back to the theme of the thread.. it's is records like these that give reason not to catagorise by genre. Psychadelic progressive acid folk rock would completely thow such an arrangement off kilter. Looks like alphabetical, chronological is the easiest starting point.

    Will get the spybox.. it's worth a go.
     
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    To prevent cupping of the disc that may lead to tracking errors, apparently.
     

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