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Discussion in 'Movie Forum' started by Blondie, Apr 22, 2005.

  1. Blondie

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    Jut a quick question to all in the know. I now have a quite an expensive collection of films on DVD, not as many as you though Marc, but not far behind. So with HD DVD coming will all my collection account for nothing???????? :lease: will all my favourite filme get re-released again? if so why do we all bother?? What with buying DVD's like there going out of fashion ( i've even ordered Razorback!!), and expensive AV gear that must be constantly updated, i must be mad, are'nt I.
     
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    That’s why I’ve seriously curtailed my spending, I’ve set myself strict limits on dvd purchases. I also think that by the end of the year (when HD will be on the horizon) I’ll be cutting back on the newly released dvd’s (Batman Begins, Episode III, War of the Worlds) in anticipation of picking these up on HD.

    However, when HD does come along – I’ll only be upgrading those dvd’s in my collection where I think it will be worth it (LoTR, Matrix, Star Wars etc.) Although I do admit that I’ll probably also have a fire sale as I have a lot of crap in my collection which I’m never going to watch again!
     
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    The industry will always find new ways and new technology to get more money out of the customer. If HD does take off in the next couple of years then standard DVD will have had a short life despite all the fanfares that accompanied its arrival.

    Perhaps if enough people just stick the standard DVD (if they are happy enough with it) then it might be around as standard CDs. Their demise was predicted when SACD/DVD-A arrived but its still going strong due to the huge market that exists.

    Perhaps, HD-DVD will be for the enthusiast and standard DVD for the masses.
     
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    I certainly believe that this will be the case over the next 3-4 years. Given the installed base of standard dvd I find it hard to see HD-DVD accelerating in the same way DVD did. At the end of the day given the high cost of conversion (dvd player, screen etc.) this will be for early-adopters until prices drop.
     
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    i think i'll certainly go with HD DVD when it comes out. i will buy all films from them on in HD DVD, however i refuse to update all my current collection, as i think films like the dollars films will not greatly improve from the SEs just released!! into HD DVD, therefore my only hope is that once i have full system that can take HD DVD, i still want to play all my current 100's of DVDs through it!!!!!!!!!
     
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    Would agree with that.

    I'm only buying the odd DVD now (mostly tv box sets like E.R and 24)

    Like earlier posts stated, i'll be upgrading for films such as Star Wars, LOTR and other personal favourites.

    I'd guess that at least half of my collection (about 163) will stay in DVD format.

    Of course, once i've upgrade to a large screen LCD/DLP i may think again as i've seen a few DVD films running on large screens 40"+++ and it's only then that i noticed the limitations of the DVD format...
     
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    No matter what new technology with stunning picture you buy, its still the quality of the films that you watch that really matters.

    No point in having HD-DVD and top quality screens & sound systems to watch cr@p on them.
     
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    i think the introduction of HD-DVD and Blu-Ray will have a minimal effect on DVD.

    Whereas DVD was a monumental step up from VHS, which was a dying technology; the HD variants of DVD, while being better quality, are not going to be noticeably better for the average user, as they won't have the equipment to display them to their full potential.

    At the moment i would hazard a guess to say there are far more people who watch dvd's on a bush 28" tv and use the internal tv speakers for sound, than there are with projectors and av receivers. Sure those people with a 7.1 surround system and 100" projector screen will notice better defined images with (hopefully) no edge enhancement, and a higher calibre of sound, but most of us with low or midrange systems either won't notice the difference, or don't currently have any issues with the quality of dvd image and sound.

    If you then factor in that HD-DVD players and possibly even Blu-Ray players will be backwards compatible with DVD, it'll mean you can double-dip into HD-DVD for your favourite movies, but keep most on DVD.

    PS - i'm gonna have to order that razorback dvd soon too :) haven't seen that movie in so long.. i hope it lives up to the memories. And i hope Anchor bay actually do a good job on it for a change.
     
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    i too remember watching Razorback one late night on channel4 and it scared the s**t out of me!! so here's hoping for much of the same :clap:
     
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    there was a great nod to Razorback in the Australian themed television show Lost currently showing in America. There was an episode where a wild boar injured someone, and an episode where a wild boar was stalking one of the survivors of the crash.
     
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    we've had this debate before chaps. for what its worth i'm not even sure that blu-ray and HD-DVD will even make a dent. they could become the laser discs for a new generation. the hardware industry cannot expect the public to rush out and buy a new format just because they have made one. as has been pointed out before DVD was a huge step above VHS, but will blu ray and HD-DVD really be that much of a leap?

    i think the great masses of the unwashed will scupper these formats because they will come to soon. christ there are even people on here qwho are unsure what to do - and if the hardware giants cant convince us what hope do they have with joe public?



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    Yeah, what Garyd said. I'd still be watching my video collection if most of them hadn't degraded in quality so much. I won't be buying anything other than DVDs any time soon.

    You don't feel the need to replace all your CDs with SACDs or DVDAs, do you? The vast majority of next-gen DVD releases won't be significantly higher quality than their DVD counterparts. (and I expect many to be equal or even lower standard)
     
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    Thats it then, i need to catch marc up in my collection!!!!!!! i don't need to worry about HD, because i must admit i'am quite happy with the DVD format now :clap: right i'am off to buy! Anyone else addicted to the shiny little discs and all there fun???????????/
     
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    how many you on at the moment? my dvdprofiler says 632 and i have a few on order too.
     
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    mines about 450 last count :thumbsdow but thats counting boxsets as one. otherwise it would be many more as i've got boxsets like friends the complete series and laurel and hardy!! i'll get i list up soon :clap:
     
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    yeah ive started counting my tv boxsets as 1 now, the profile was looking too messy with all the individual discs on, but if i counted them, i'd probably have another 150ish cos i've got 34 tv boxsets. Im still counting the individual movies in a movie boxset seperately though.
     
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    boxsets do mess up the old figures, i'am suprised how many boxsets i actually have now, the true daddy though is still Alien Quadrilogy (numbered), which they seem to have stoped. still havent worked my way through!!!!!!!
     
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    Wowzars guys - do you watch these more than once? I dare you to try and add up the cost of them all :D
     
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    Agree it's only going to be the hardcore enthusiasts that already have the top equipment and/or the money to upgrade to make it worthwhile. Assuming the format wars are eventually settled I can't see myself up grading for at the very least five years anyway by the time I upgrade there will be special editions of the early high-definition releases which will put them to shame no doubt, just like DVD trying to get us to double dip.
     
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    I couldn't care less about HD, not needed in my opinion. Picture quality on the current discs is perfect for me, even older films with less than sparkling transfers don't bother me, infact it's only older tv series discs that annoy me with sh*tty picture, still not enought to ever replace them though.
     
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    For Me DVDs on big screens while ok are nothing stunning, i am looking forward to HD-DVD and having a HCPC the upgrade will be cheap just stick in a HD-ROM which will be a fraction of the cost of a Player.
     
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    This exact topic was discussed just a few weeks ago here - I think the general conclusion/opinion was that HD/Bluray will become specialist markets, but that DVD will remain the standard format for many years to come... (but what do we know!?!)
     
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    I agree to a point. I feel that the difference HD will make on my 37" plasma is not going to be that profound. However, if I decide to invest in a pj in the future then HD will become more important.
     
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    Maybe not on older remastered films which still will suffer from there age

    But if you check out the Microsoft HD demos (especially the HD film trailers) i think you may see a huge difference, i have not seen them on a 37" but on my PWD6 42" the difference between those and DVDs is massive.
     
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    Maybe you're right, my pc isn't powerful enough to handle a lot of the hd film transfers so I wouldn't know about that. My point was simply that the difference would be more noticable the larger the screen you have.
     
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    Those of us with bigger screens will probably get the biggest benefit from the new format/s as once you up the screen size to any degree then any imperfections in the image have no place to hide. As with the current format there will of course be some discs that are better than others but you'd hope that even the ropey ones will still look far superior to DVD.
     
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    Yes i do watch them more then once, that's why i buy them, i know sad really, since it's all make believe!! it takes all my time up trying to get through every aspect of the Quadrilogy boxset, anybody managed to check out every last bit of detail in this boxset yet???????????
    PS never thought bout the cost, to scary, but defo into the thousands :suicide:
    PPS thought i'd just say p**s o*f to all burglars and i hate people who try and sell copies, you to p**s o*f cheap skates!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!get a real job
     
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    thats the difference. Looking at older films which were lazy conversions, they dont take in the quality that DVD has to offer.
    Definitely alot of life left in dvd, as only an extremely small percentage of the population will embrace something so soon as HD. People will need to upgrade alot of other equipment which is very costly to run the new formats, thats not taking into account the loss you make on your collection.
    It's too early for all this to come out (although I've nothing against progress)
     
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    call me a cynic but i think that HD has been rushed out, not because they can give us better pq and sound, but because manufacturers like Sony, Pioneer and the like are suffering huge hits to their sales of dvd hardware because your average joe will go into Asda and pick up a pacific dvd player that's easy to region hack for £30, so they want to kill off DVD and get everyone into a new format that the pacifics, albas and bush's of this world can't afford to build hardware for, forcing the consumer into spending a few hundred on an upmarket player.
     
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    You're a cynic ;)

    I don't buy that scenario and I can expain it in one acronym - CD.

    Cd players are cheap as chips and are still going strong. What was the next big format ? DVD-A and SACD - better quality, needs new hardware. Sound familiar? How well have those formats fared in comparrison?

    I even know someone who wouldn't buy a DVD until it could be recorded on. When the first recorders came out - they then said, not until they're £200.

    I think that it's very much a case of waiting and seeing - it could be DVD-A/SACD all over again or the next big thing.
     

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