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War movie opinions.

Discussion in 'Movie Forum' started by ELV, Aug 17, 2002.

  1. ELV

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    Just watched We were soldiers,thought it was stunning.
    Any other opinions on war movies.Thought that The Thin Red Line
    was great also better the Saving Private Ryan.
     
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    I enjoyed WWS but I thought SPR was far far better. I still prefer the war films from the 60s and 70s though. Patton, Dirty Dozen, Too Late The Hero, Guns of Navarone, etc etc. IMHO they take some beating.I thought the original Thin Red Line from the 60s was much better than the remake.
     
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    I have to agree SPR beats the pants off WWS

    I thought WWS was ok but some of the dialogue was unbelievable cheesy

    personally though i think Platoon, Full Metal Jacket and even our own Bridge on the river Kwai take some beating

    oh and yes it is REALLY cheesy but great escape is fantastic
     
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    I don't know if I would class it as a war movie in the traditional sense, but for me, Apocalypse Now is the best by a long shot. Next up, I would say Platoon, Full Metal Jacket and the Thin Red Line are all miles better than Saving Private Ryan. I would have to hand it to Speilberg that the first and final battle scenes in SPR are simply stunning and harrowing in equal measure, but as a film SPR lacked a hell of a lot - namely a decent story.
     
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    Plat00n is probably my favourite. The shot of the helicopters flying overhead....amazing.
     
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    I always favoured "Hamburger Hill" as the best Vietnam war film.

    Thought "When Trumpets Fade" was a lot more enjoyable than SPR which IMHO was ruined by the contemporary prologue and epilogue that just ruined the overall message of the film, by excessive sentimentality.

    I would like to see a definative DVD copy of "Battle Of The Bulge" as the VHS version I have is missing some important scenes.

    Always like the "Battle Of Britain" and still regularly dust off my Laser Disc copy in diffult of any other version being available. It captures and depicts both the historical/tactical and social signifcance of one of the key campaigns of the second world war. It also shows the polite, traditional, unflappable quality of the English race that is sadly now in decline. I'm think specifically of the scene were the Germans start daylight bombing of English airfields. To this outrage, Kenneth Moore ejaculates "Gods Teeth! Take cover!!!!" Priceless.
     
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    not really a war war film

    but i've just seen sum of all fears

    good film

    great cast

    even wooden ben Affleck wasn't quite his usual wooden self
     
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    the thin red line was the first and only film that i have ever walked out of a cinema from,and i wasnt the only one.
     
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    I just finished watching Enemy at the Gates and really enjoyed that :)

    Saving Private Ryan is my favourite war movie - contrary to what Groundy has said, I think it has a strong story but the story is more about the people and their inter-relationships than the war itself and those are the sort of war movies that I like. :)

    I also like Platoon and Behind Enemy Lines.

    I like Top Gun too - does that count as a war movie? :D

    I have Thin Red Line, Tigerland, and Southern Comfort on order so am looking forward to them. But if they're cack, they didn't cost me much anyway. :)
     
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    SPR great, the TRL ( no likee ), AATG ( Gritty, good ). See, you have all forgotten Star Ship Troopers if they had'nt been there we would all have had our brains sucked out. :rolleyes:
     
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    Maybe I was a little too harsh about SPR. It was an achievment in film making and a damn fine movie in it's own right. I just felt that everything in between the first and last battle was forced - a series of mini-events that existed solely to push the story from A to B. I felt the other war movies I mentioned, The Thin Red Line in particular, captured the essence of war in the minds of the soldiers rather than out and out action. Saying that, I didn't think much to TTRL on first viewing as it was long and too hot in the cinema :rolleyes:, but upon second viewing I really began to appreciate the essence and soul of the film, not to mention the cinematography which rivals - maybe even surpasses - Apocalypse Now.
     
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    Everyone is talking about the new version of Thin red Line and most think its naff. Has anyone else seen the origianl 60s version with Jier Dullea? Its a great film. (especially the bit where Dullea kills his first jap and loses the plot a little). Another class one where still waiting to come out on dvd is Where Eagles Dare. I saw most of these older movies in the late 70s early 80s when i was a kid and they made war look exciting etc rather than the hell that it actually is. They did not have to rely on blood, guts and bad language to make it popular. There are some dam good war films out there but a lot of people wont give them a look in coz they were made before 1995!
     
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    I think what was great about Thin red line was that there were so many well known great actors in it, that you almost forgot who they were, nobody got any particular focus above the others. Whereas in some ways Saving Private Ryan was Saving Private Damon.
     
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    My fave war movies:

    Apocalypse Now - The madness of it all
    Das Boot - Sweaty tension
    Platoon - The fog of war, confusion in battle
    Cross of Iron - Nihilism
    Battle of Britain - Patriotic, lump in throat stuff
    In Which We Serve - Noel Coward - priceless
    Oh What a Lovely War! - Cutting

    Jules.
     
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    I have to agree with Mr Chadwick on TTRL - How often do we need to be told that war is hell ? Annoyingly we watched that instead of SPR.

    No- one has mentioned Black Hawk Down - is it any good ?
     
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    My favourite war films include almost anything by Erich Maria Remarque plus Das Boot.

    Apart from anything else they all give a different perspective to the normal British stiff upper lip and American gung ho versions of history.
     
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    I loved SPR and have Black hawk down and We were soldiers on order. a classic to me would have to be The Longest Day, unreal cast as well. looking forward to see windtalkers. Also enjoyed Pearl Harbor, special effects were amazing.
     
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    Pearl Harbor - crap film but good battle scene with amazing sound
    Full Metal Jacket - Just a good Nam movie
    Spr - amazing sound and acting
    Enemy at the gates - good action scenes but crap love story
     
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    My fave movies of this genre would include:

    Tora! Tora! Tora!
    The Hunt for Red October (cold war)
    Kelly's Heroes (Sutherland's hippy doesn't quite gel of course)
    Where Eagles Dare
    The Guns of Navarone
    Ice Cold in Alex
    The Dambusters
    The Fourth Protocol (brrrrr, chilly again)
    Heartbreak Ridge (not everyone's cup of tea I'll admit)
    13 Days (a positively arctic climate..)
    Ronin (post cold war? A bit tenuous maybe :p )
    (thought SPR was superb, but then it's had many mentions already!)

    and from television

    Dad's Army
    Vietnam: The The Thousand Day War
    The World at War
     
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    Disagree strongly. Donald Sutherland's Oddball was the making of the Film.

    Anyone remember Hogan's Heroes ?:D
     
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    Not quite what I meant - the hippy characterisation was indeed most amusing, though a little incongruous in it's WWII setting.
     
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    i seen a film called the hill i think with sean connery an a few more a couple of nights ago on the TCM channel.im not sure if its strictly a war film but i thought it was superb seeing as im only 26 an you what the young generation are like lol.also like dead presidents not strictly a war film but the flashbacks an the parts of war in the film where pretty tense.
     
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    Where Eagles Dare & The Guns of Navarone, two of my fav's ...

    Didn't like SPR and I am trying to watch The Thin Red Line, picked it up quite cheap but have tried 3 times and never managed to watch more than 10 minutes - sooo boring. That said I am not sure if I will ever watch it to the end or just ditch the DVD.

    Das Boot is also great, no winners, no heros - only loosers and no happy end either. Great!
     
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    One of the best war films i've ever seen is a Russian film called "Come and See". I saw it on Film 4 a few years back and it's a truely harrowing film. I'd say in terms of depicting war and all its associated atrocities it beats the pants off anything thats come from Hollywood in recent years.

    Platoon or Full Metal Jacket are probably my favourite modern war films - and parts of Apocalypse Now.
     
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    Apart from one battle scene, the new Thin Red Line was utter pants. i thought they had given me the wrong disc coz the first 20 mins was just kids playing in a river. I still say you cant beat the old ones.

    Thin red Line 60s version
    dambusters
    fixed bayonets
    where eagles dare
    ice cold in alex
    too late the hero caine at his best
    das boot
    guns of navarone
    longest day
    great escape
    von ryans express
    halls of montezuma
    paths of glory
    sahara
    dirty dozen
    sea of sand
    .......... this list goes on and on
     
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    Best:
    Platoon
    Hamburger Hill
    Black Hawk Down
    Saving Private Ryan (just)

    Worst:
    Thin Red Line
    Behind Enemy Lines

    Do/soon will own but haven't seen:
    Apocalypse Now
    Full Metal Jacket

    And Band of Brothers was top too.
     
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    I also like

    All quiet on the Western Front - German warfilm
    Zulu - Hehehehehe, surprised no none mentioned this
    American Civil War film about the first black company (can't remember the name)

    And yes the old war films are the best ones :)
     
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    'Platoon'
    'Saving Private Ryan'
    'Full Metal Jacket'
    'Das Boot'
    'The Guns Of Navarone'

    'Lawrence Of Arabia' anyone?

    'Blackadder Goes Forth' (not a film I know, but the ending was very poignant).

    'Starship Troopers'...





    ... just kidding. ;)
     
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    SINZER,

    that film about the first black regiment is GLORY (i think) ZULU, how the hell did I not remember to put that in my previous post. I saw a film about 20 years ago on BBC called "the last grenade" it starred Stanley Baker, Alex Cord and John Thaw. It was brilliant. I have looked out for it ever since but it has never been on. I wrote to all the tv companys asking if they would show it but none have the rights to it. It aint been out on video or dvd. i did manage to get a barley watchable copy from the states but i would love a decent one. Anyone got a copy??
     
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    Most of my fav's have already been quoted.

    Lawrence Of Arabia yeah I'd go for that one pointon.

    Too late the Hero as someone else said.
    Bridge on the River Kwai.
    The Great Escape.
    The Cruel Sea, anybody?
    The Boys from Company C remeber this one?

    Top Secret. :D
     

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