Does anybody out there in the ether know of anything that can fulfil my requirements : Full size atx M/B - so we can have hi spec machines! Silent Operation (or as near as damn it is to swearing) Brushed aluminium front etc Styling similar to Apple G5 would be nice Neat back panel Reliable Complete with HTPC interface and front panel display Remember that an Imerge unit is just a PC but the front and back panels are neatly finished off and hook up like hifi and HC kit Why on earth can somebody not do this in a HTPC? And with the decent level of support, sale or return kind of thing! If PC case designers out there had any brains they would put on outputs onto the back panel for 5 bnc video (RGBHV that is encapsulated in a VGA lead) This is something commonly featured on CAD workstations and lets face it with a PC you can get pretty stunning levels of DVD playback it its done properley. I just find the whole HTPC situation extremely annoying and the addrev. HTPC almost a contradiction in terms!! And yes I do live with a enormous beige tower with I loathe!!! I may yet just be done with it, go out and buy a Apple, at least they look good, and I believe a G5 can go on it's side. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Fustrated beige box hater!!! and relax!