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Discussion in 'Home Cinema Speakers' started by MNH, Sep 9, 2004.

  1. MNH

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    i'm looking for some speakers to wall mount either side of my plasma (pio 434). so far i havent had much luck. the only two possibilities i've found are the bowers & wilkins FPM series (too expensive at £445 each) and sequence sonata's from sequencedesign.co.uk (too wide for the space i have at 250mm - waiting for there brochure to arrive as that almost seems like a mistake to me???).

    basically, my requirement are that they are 100mm or less deep (screen is at about 120mm so i want to blend it in a bit), at least 400mm high, and less than 200mm wide. and a reasonable price!

    can anyone help?

    tks
     
  2. drgoni

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    hi...

    There are a few options for what you're trying to achieve... but they're not cheap. Apart from the B&W FPM series, I've also demo'd the following:

    KEF 5005 system
    KEF 9000 system + REL (can't remember model)
    Monitor Audio Radius series R225's front & centre/R180's rear + R360
    Jamo A355's front/A3CEN.5/A325's rear + ASUB.5

    The B&W FPM's and KEF's were the most disappointing (IMHO) relative to what they purport to be and their cost... I know many on this forum rave about these but as far as I'm concerned these products are primarily about style over content... and whilst style is important for what I am (and you obviously are) trying to achieve, I felt they were disportionally expensive for the sound they offered (to my ears)... I would say give them a try though as it's highly subjective and they might appeal to you.

    The Jamo's were ok - not fantastic but not bad and within £1k... however, spring clips and the mounting brackets were disappointing.

    The MA's actually were not bad... and do come in a black laquer to match the 434 (which I also have... although it's not mounted yet!!)... but I want to check all alternatives first. I don't mind paying the money if it I think it's worth it. Currently I'm looking at possibly expanding my stereo Proac 125's with more Proacs but the boxes are rather chunky...??

    I've also considered (but not yet demo'd) Artcoustic and Waterfall... which I will look at before final decision. I think there maybe other options/speakers out there that might work and which I'm not aware of... perhaps others on here might be able to give a steer??

    Anyway... good luck!!

    Derry
     
  3. Joe Fernand

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    Hello both

    MNH - I think you have to find the sound your after in the cabinets that suit your dimensions then work out the budget.

    drgoni - I'm with you on the very skinny speakers not cutting the mustard; though we'll get dogs abuse for saying so!!!

    Options we use/supply for you to consider are:

    Artison - you can use two of the front speakers with the Dual Mono tweeters to achieve LCR with just two cabinets. See http://www.artisonusa.com

    Artcoustic - you already know. The DF-Multi again gives you LCR in one cabinet - though along the bottom edge of your TV.
    See - http://www.artcoustic.com

    Definitive Technology - the Mythos On Wall units work well alongside both Pioneer and Panasonic displays. See http://www.definitivetech.com/loudspeakers/mythos/mythos.html

    Any questions please shout.

    Best regards

    Joe
     
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    MNH - I'm in a similar position - planning to wall mount my 434HDE and looking for suitable speakers. I found a review of wall-mounted speakers including the FPM and Definitive Technology Mythos in an issue of US mag Sound & Vision. They also commented on Canton CD50; Jamo D400; Martin Logan Fresco (seriously expensive); Polk Audio RM7600; and Sonance Silverscreen 50. I'm not sure which of these are actually available in the UK, but hopefully this gives you some other options to investigate.

    Personally I am planning to audition the Artcoustic; Definitive Technology and B&W FPM - although I am disappointed to hear you thought the latter were unimpressive. The dealer I spoke to was raving about them - particularly in comparison with the Kefs.

    Good luck with whatever you finally choose.

    Regards, Brian
     
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    Elac now offer one that is meant to be reasonable a bit smaller than their cinema pipe, not sure of the model but i reckno they're about £400 per pair!
     
  6. digisocialist

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    There's a big difference in price between the B&W FPM6 at £595 a pair and the artcoustic DF range which start at £1,100 each to £5,800 for a pair of DFF180-43's!
     
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    Artcoustics Diablo Minis are £695 a pair, the Diablo Monitor is £995 a pair

    audio venue
     
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    I was quoted a price for the B&W FPM4 as £445 each and therefore assume the FPM6 are £595 each rather than per pair; whilst I understand the Artcoustic DF65-50 are £1995 per pair - so whilst there is indeed a significant difference, it isn't quite as bad as you suggest.

    Of course the big question is whether the difference in quality is worth the difference in price - that's why I plan to audition them both.

    On the other hand, it could be that my understanding of the prices is wrong. Can anyone clarify please?
     
  9. Joe Fernand

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    Hello all

    As pointed out there can be quite a difference in price with the on-wall designs.

    The Artcoustic are great sounding and for many are very acceptable visually - the DF-Multi is a nice compromise giving you LCR in one long cabinet with an SRP of £1.3K.

    As before anyone wanting info on the kit we supply please shout.

    Joe
     
  10. MNH

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    tks for all the replies, i'm going to try and take a look/demo all the suggestions you've made - then it will 'just' be a case of getting permission from 'er indoors!

    (still favouring the B&W FPM's so far so if anyone hears of any going 2nd hand please let me know!)
     
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    I've been on the look out myself for similar speakers and saw a set called the Cabasse Ki's today. They are 170 mm deep but fit almost flush onto the wall, so it wouldn't stick out too much. They are really smart indeed and beautifully made.

    As to what they sound like, I don't know but am having an extended audition on Wed/Thurs this week. So I'll let you know. But they are gorgeous!!!

    http://www.shootandshow.co.uk/Cabasse/Ki.htm
     
  12. Henry

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    Sorry. Lied to you all there. It's the Xi's that I'm listening too later on this week. Just checked the link I sent and the Ki's are way out of my budget! Correct link below.

    http://www.shootandshow.co.uk/Cabasse/Xi.htm
     
  13. KHCC

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    Mornin'

    Have a look at the Canton CD Series. Either the smaller CD50 each side or if you are going for the 5.1, 5 centers all roundis great. Or there is the CD360F which is a full range,flat down to 33Hz, center which is 3.9" deep and an awsome bit of kit. The CD50 costs retail £160 and the CD360F is £400 retail. And you can get the CD100 Series in black now.

    Try and get a demo of them both if you can.

    I hope this is of use.

    Regards
     
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    Listened to the Cabasse Xi's today. Hugely disappointed. They looked so good but sounded very average indeed. Really lacked detail on music and although a little better on movies(LOTR: TT, Pitch Black and Seabiscuit) still not at all impressed. Seems the better the speaker looks the worse it sounds. Listened to it against the M&K K5 set and also the K17 set, chalk and cheese. It's gonna blow my budget but the K17s seem the way forward. unless anyone's got any other suggestions.
     
  15. Xstyle

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    I have just come across these speakers:
    http://www.artcoustic.com/products.htm

    The Artcoustic Multi can be used as centre and left and right... and looks awesome!
    but it is £1300!

    The Artcoustic Diablo's can used as rears ... and are £1000 for the pair.
    BUT the benefit I like with this is that you can put your own picture on them at £80 each! ...removes the need for any other artwork or whatever on your walls!

    (Ouch!!! ...when you write it down you can see how much speakers alone are costing!)
    Hmmmm...........

    Do I need front L and R, or will the Artcoustic Multi just do?
    (and pair of Diablo's at rear)

    whats your thoughts?
     

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