Wales to ban e-cigarettes from public places in 2017.

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  1. gibbsy

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    Title says it all. My mate is going to be really p****d off at this one.

    Personally my dear I don't give a damn.
     
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    I've no problem with that law.

    Since I stopped smoking ciggies and went on to e-cigs about 4 months ago I've treated them just the same (except in hotel rooms). I'd never thinking of taking a vape inside a restaurant or bar.
    I was surprised to see a lot of people vaping indoors when I was in Leicester last week.
     
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    I'm of the same opinion really, I don't think you should expect to be allowed to vape where you're not allowed to smoke.
     
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    Me too.

    Was down in Devon last week and watching the FA Cup final in a pub and was great to enjoy a puff indoors with a drink though (after asking landlords permission)
     
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    I have to disagree on that one. Having to go outside with the smokers is not ideal for those struggling to quit the real thing. I think it's particularly a problem at music venues that in some cases not only insist you vape outside but herd you into a tiny pen crammed with real smokers. It's not in itself a problem for me but I have a lot of friends that would have happily stayed inside and vaped but once outside they opt for the real thing.
     
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    I agree vapers shouldn't have to put with cigarette smoke, and by law any venue or establishment can't make you. My point is why should non vapers have to put up with vapour.
     
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    I disagree.............the Law specifically identifies "smoking" as


    (a) “smoking” refers to smoking tobacco or anything which contains
    tobacco, or smoking any other substance, and

    (b) smoking includes being in possession of lit tobacco or of anything lit which contains tobacco, or being in possession of any other lit substance in a form in which it could be smoked.

    There is NO tobacco in an E Cig and nothing is "lit" or being smoked. No smoke is produced, so why the need for a ban?
     
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    Because it's incredibly inconsiderate and whilst we may know the long term effects of ingesting the ingredients, we don't yet know the long term effects of vapourising them. So again, is it fair to expose others to this?

    If I walked into a bar that had a heavy haze of lingering vape then I'd be inclined to turn around and go elsewhere.
     
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    Well the same could be said for coffee, perfume, food etc if you are referring to the smell. You make a fair point about unknown long term effects though but until there's even the remotest amount of evidence to suggest that second hand vape could be any kind of threat then I think banning them on those grounds is daft. Living in London, I'm pretty sure there's plenty of other things mixing with the air that we know are problematic that we need to worry about before second hand ecig vape is our biggest concern...but then at the moment this is about Wales.
     
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    You don't get a "heavy haze of lingering vape" with E cigs..........I know, 'cos I vape
     
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    No lingering clouds? Then you need a better set-up...I know, 'cos I also vape :p
     
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    This raises a question - do people know what they are inhaling?
    I am thinking of the long term effect on those buy the liquids by mail order (sometimes from abroad).
     
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    Not all ingredients are listed.
    I'm vaping 88 vape
    It's states, nicotine, propylene glycol, glycerin and flavouring.

    My mystic juice states, glycerol, propylene glycol 55%, natural and artificial flavours, nicotine, USP/EP.

    don't order from abroad as I just prefer UK stuff.
     
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    Either way it is a lot less harmful than tobacco.
     
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    Genuine question, what's the point of the cloud vaping leaves? If it's possible to discreetly vape isn't that better than massive plumes?
     
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    I'm not sure mate, I personally don't go out of my way to blow big clouds... however I don't go out of my way to stealth Vape either, but then I don't do it where it could annoy people.
     
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    Some people really seem to get a kick out of their cloud, guess it's just willy waving! I do find it less intrusive but if they're only doing it for show it's damaging the vaping movement.
     

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