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VW Beetle

Discussion in 'Motoring' started by smelly, Sep 19, 2005.

  1. smelly

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    OK so in light of the fact that I can't afford the new XK :D I'm looking for other cars more within my price range. Hadn't really thought of what I want so far - currently drive Peugot 306. Been offered a VW Beetle, 2ltr, reg Aug 03, 24,000 miles, FSH, CD changer, wind breaker blah blah. Glasses guide £14.2k, I can get it for £13k.

    Typically half the office reckons its a good deal, the other half wouldn't touch a VW with a barge pole. Girlie car yeah I know, but hey I am a girlie and its about time I posed a little before its too late :D

    Any thoughts?
     
  2. SanPedro

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    I like the beetle. It's basically a Mk IV Golf under the skin. My wife and I had a 1.8 Mk IV Golf GTi (non - turbo model) and we both really enjoyed driving it for the 4 years it was in our family.

    Nicely made, perky enough to drive. Whilst not the head turner they were when they came out i think they are still different enough from most mid market fodder. And unlike the Retro styled Chrysler PT Cruiser at least people won't laugh at you when you drive by.

    Is it in a funky colour? I think the bright greens and yellows suit it more.

    The only downside we experienced was the light grey interior which didn't stand up to the ravages of 2 kids too well and was forever needing cleaning.

    EDIT: and we never had any mechanical problems with it either
     
  3. Ian J

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    There was an interesting article in The Sunday Times yesterday about how VW were the masters at badge engineering with the £30,000 Audi TT sharing a huge amount of components with the humble £10,000 Skoda.

    The Beetle is similarly a tarted up Golf selling at a large premium for it's styling but having looked at the Beetles available in the Midlands on Autotrader I would say that yours is too expensive.

    2003 03 Reg Volkswagen Beetle 1.8 litre Turbo, Brindley Honda Halesowen 3 Doors, Manual, Hatchback, Petrol, 8,750 miles, Silver, ABS(Anti-Lock Brakes),Alloy Wheels,Body Coloured Bumpers,Cloth Interior,Driver's Air Bag,Electric Windows,Electronic Stability Programme,Front Fog . £10,000

    2004 04 Reg Volkswagen Beetle 1.9 TDI PD (100 BHP), TL Darby Volkswagen 3 Doors, Manual, Hatchback, Diesel, 11,300 miles, Raven Blue, Anti-lock brakes,Driver/passenger seat height adjustment,Driver, passenger and front side air bags,Manual air conditioning,Alarm,Remote . . . £10,495

    2003 53 Reg Volkswagen Beetle 1.9 TDi PD 100 3dr, availableCar Supermarket 18,278 miles, Raven Blue, Electric Door Mirrors, Power Steering, Electric Front Windows, Alloy Wheels, Alarm, Air Conditioning, ABS, Remote Central Locking, All Round Airbags, Radio Cassette.. £10,799

    2005 05 Reg Volkswagen Beetle 2.0, Trust Volkswagen Redditch 3 Doors, Manual, Hatchback, Petrol, 9,000 miles, Red, Anti-lock brakes,Driver/passenger seat height adjustment,Driver, passenger and front side air bags,Manual air conditioning,Alarm,6.5jx16in route 66 . .£11,495

    2005 05 Reg Volkswagen Beetle 2.0, Nottingham Volkswagen West Bridgford 3 Doors, Manual, Hatchback, Petrol, 5,000 miles, Royal Navy Pearlescent, Anti-lock brakes,Driver/passenger seat height adjustment,Driver, passenger and front side air bags,Manual air . £11,495

    and that's just a random sample
     
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  5. smelly

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    Thanks Ian. Have to say I've done a bit more looking since posting and decided to look the other way round - what else I could buy for the same money. Some nice choices came up!!!!

    Need to do a bit more thinking :rolleyes:
     
  6. smelly

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    You telling me I need a trim :D

    You couldn't possibly be saying its a hairdressers car suuuuuurrrrrrreeeeelllllyyyyyyy ;)
     
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    Bernd Pischetsrieder said Audis are " a complete waste of money ", he should know, being head of Volkswagen.
    http://news.ft.com/cms/s/f78d7a4c-1504-11da-9df1-00000e2511c8.html

    Never had much luck with VW reliability, wouldn't fancy a second-hand one anyway.
    Driving around in a Beetle, nah ! A retro throwback to Hitler and the Nazis, only cute part is the flower holder in the dash. :cool:
     
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    I thought the rain sensing windscreen wipers were excessive,but this is extreme laziness!
     
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    Smelly, let me put the Beetle into perspective.

    I bought my wife a 5 door Golf GTi 1.8 turbo for £10,300.

    It was a late 02 reg, in metallic black, all the toys, full leather recaro interior (includes heated seats), winter pack, upgraded alloys, climatronic (fancy A/C), 6 disc auotchanger ..... one owner, with tax (didn't need an MOT) and 13,000 miles on the clock with FSH.

    The Beetle is overpriced, get a Golf GTi instead and do the job properly :D .

    Regards, AnilS.
     
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    Yes BUT I GOT THE MV6 :clap: :clap:
     
  11. AnilS

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    LOL at Martin, the Golf is the wife's motor.

    I have a High Power RX8 :smashin: .


    AnilS.
     
  12. Drd

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    I didn't realise they made a High Power RX8 :D
     
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    Sarcasm Drd :smashin: . I'll try not to mistake it for envy :rotfl:

    For the uneducated, they make a 192 and 228 bhp ones.

    AnilS.
     
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    A friend has one,and we all drive him nuts,'cause the first thing we ask him when we see him is 'have you checked your oil?' (For those not in the know you are supposed to check the oil level at every other petrol stop on this car.That would be almost every day for some!!)
     
  15. smelly

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    Well thats put me right off :eek:

    I struggle to keep a car topped up with petrol let alone anything else. Not for any girlie 'don't do cars' reason. I'm just essentially lazy :D
     
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    I was referring to the Mazda there Smelly,not the wind breaking beetle.
     
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    There must be something wrong with mine then, as mine needs to be checked every 1000 miles :) .

    You sound jealous. :D

    Tell me you have a ....................?
     
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    How about something like this for the same price as that beetle:
    Cheers,
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    :oops:

    Thats another car off the list though :D
     
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    Is this Beetle a convertible? There were a lot of problems with the roof mechanism, and build quality in general on these cars. As such, make sure it's thoroughly checked by the AA or similar before you take the plunge, ad make sure it has a good warranty!

    If you like the car, then go for it. But bare in mind the boot is entirely useless, unless you only travel with a pack of cards and tea towel.

    Anils, do you really have to check the oil in your Mazda every 1000 miles? That's terrible! I had a mini like that once, but then it was 30 years old and shagged.
     
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    Apologises for the thread hijack Smelly. ;)

    Rhoamish, the RX8 is meant to use oil. Normally after a 1000 miles in needs a top-up, as oil system is a "total loss" system , meaning that the oil is used to coat the tips of the rotors in the rotary engine. Costs about £40 a year in oil, so no more than my half yearly oil change on my other cars. :smashin:

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    Hey AnilS,you're getting paranoid here.I LIKE the RX8,if it wasn't for the fact I have 3 teenagers and have to drive down rural backroads in all weathers I may even have bought one.I drive a 3 litre X-type,4 wheel drive and it's absolutely reliable,not one fault in almost 30 months.Many people knock them,but I sold an Evolution VI as it was just too unrefined after 2 years and the Jag gives 90% of the performance in relative luxury so I'm happy.That is after all what is important.Like plasma screens or whatever,if you like your RX8 that's all that matters.Who gives a monkey's what anyone else thinks :D
    Look after that engine though,and keep checking that oil,see Honest John's comments here

    http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/index.php?url=/carbycar/index.htm

    or Top Gear here

    http://www.topgear.com/drives/C6/C3/roadtests/03/01.html

    Regards
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    Ian, no problem. As explained the RX8 does consume oil as its meant to and the top gear chap has put in a 3 litre in 4K miles. Thats bang on with mine, as I state one litre per 1K miles (roughly). Just in case an owner is forgetful, there is an oil pressure guage AND warning light that gives you notice to top up :smashin: .

    Jag 3 litre - nice car. :smashin: Once the teenagers leave home get the Coupe ;) .

    Evo - not my cup of tea I'm afraid.

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    I had an Alfa 156 and that drunk oil at exactly the same rate. And that was just a bog-standard 1.8 twin spark model.

    Unbeliveable in this day and age. I've never had a car before, or since, that's used up so much oil. I had to carry a 5 litre can of oil around permanently just in case it needed topping up mid-trip. And the damn thing had no oil level meter either :eek:

    The RX8 needs checking more often as the rotary engines are more prone to wear. The pioneering NSU Ro80 used to eat engines for breakfast as the rotor tips wore out on an almost monthly basis :D
     
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    No probs - got the info I needed :smashin:
     
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    On the 8 they are good for 120,000 miles until the tips need inspecting :smashin: .
     
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    I didn't realise it was a two-stroke...

    Seriously, that's shocking! How much does the oil cost? Around £10 for a litre pot?

    That would cost me a fortune just in oil for my mileage.

    I think I'll stick with conventional piston engines: more torque, and better economy, typically.
     
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    Rhoamish, I already responded to the cost question here mate (look at the top of the page :smashin: kinda).

    Oil is £4 per litre. Not shocking at all. My SAAB 9000 (non turbo) used the same but at twice the cost per litre.

    AnilS.
     
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    Need help sm1 please, my gf has got a y reg beetle and her brake lights dont work, the bulbs are fine and i cant seem to find anywhere maybe any fuses for the brake lights. Does any1 have any ideas, please cause she doing my head in lol
     
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    Do try fuses first, then look for the brake light switch which is on the pedal itself right underneath, the switch could be stuck.

    Liam
     

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