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Question Viewing angle advice

cndawes

Standard Member
Hi,

I'm looking for a new 40 or 43" TV with a great viewing angle.

Whilst most of the time we watch from in front of it my wife likes to sit on this sofa and still see the TV! Thus she's at 45 degrees, about 200 cm and 90cm below the centre point.

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We used to have a Samsung F7000 there that was fine, but I was looking for something a bit larger.
We just tried a Philips 43PUS6753 that was fine from directly in front but totally useless in this position. In hindsight it was probably a bit much to expect at that price point.

Anyway - budget is not the issue, it's about getting the best set up for that position on the wall to make sure everyone is happy ;)

I'd started to look at maybe the Sony KD43XF8577 or 7073 models - any thoughts on these ?

Ideally it also needs to have all the UK Catch-Up TV Players too.

The wall is only 107cm wide so I don't think a 49" will fit (or it will look awkward).

Any advice appreciated - although I guess I should be going down to JL or Richer Sounds and actually testing the viewing angles rather than buying online.

Thanks in advance!
 

tvdavid

Member
you need to look at LG TVs most seem to be ISP TVs
 

zeppelino

Distinguished Member
The Sony XF85 uses an ips panel. Panasonic’s FX lcd range also use ips.

They’ll all perform about the same so get the one you prefer the design of.
 

Dodgexander

Moderator
This is a tough decision because you face both vertical and horizontal viewing angles. Made even tougher by not knowing for certain which panel type came on the Philips TV you tried. Most 43" models use IPS panels, especially Philips. But they have used VA in the past too. Almost certainly your Samsung F7000 would have been VA.

What was it that looked bad with the Philips compared your Samsung? Was it poor horizontal viewing angles looking bad like this (see left tv):

Or IPS glow like this:

?

IPS panel TVs such as the Sony's may look poor and have a lot of light coming through as you look upward to the TV.

VA panels on the other hand should look better looking up, but worse to the side.
 

cndawes

Standard Member
It's the first image that you posted. Even when I am level with the TV any movement left or right towards 45deg and the picture starts to grey out and lose colour and contrast. This is exacerbated further when I am below the TV. The Philips is a Detailed specifications on 43PUS6753/12 which according to 42.5" Philips 43PUS6753/12 - Display is an IPS with a 178deg viewing angle! Although TechRadar says the 67xx range for 2018 are VA.

The 5 year old Samsung is definitely better - I moved it to another room and just checked and there's no real degradation at 45deg - there is some when you are about 75deg.
 
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Dodgexander

Moderator
It's the first image that you posted. Even when I am level with the TV any movement left or right towards 45deg and the picture starts to grey out and lose colour and contrast. This is exacerbated further when I am below the TV. The Philips is a Detailed specifications on 43PUS6753/12 which according to 42.5" Philips 43PUS6753/12 - Display is an IPS with a 178deg viewing angle!

The 5 year old Samsung is definitely better - I moved it to another room and just checked and there's no real degradation at 45deg - there is some when you are about 75deg.
I don't think displayspecs are right then. IPS will look better to an horizontal angle than your old TV.

Nonetheless, its IPS that you probably need then, most VA tv's now have even worse viewing angles than your old Samsung does with a VA panel.

Pricing is pretty bad in general right now, some 2018 models are costing a lot than the 2017 predecessors if still available. Anything from Panasonic, Sony or LG at this size will be IPS.

EDIT* its not uncommon for displayspecifications.com to be wrong. All it is user submitted information.
 
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cs2008

Active Member
I have found the viewing angle on my Sony 49XF9005 is OK, but not great. The colour and contrast degrades noticeably vertically and horizontally, and far more than my 8 year old Sony FHD TV, which also had a VA panel. It seems that the 4K VA panels are much worse than FHD VA panels in that respect.

I looked at 49 inch LG and Panasonic TVs in Currys recently, which have IPS panels, and although viewing angles were better, the off-axis blooming negated the benefit. The only TVs which genuinely had good viewing angles were the OLEDs, but they are 55" minimum.
 

AlanX

Active Member
Personally I'd pop along to my nearest Curry's megastore, and look at the rows of TV screens from an oblique angle. Some are dreadful, many are middling, OLEDs always best (but these sadly are not available in a size that interests you).
 

gusgirvan

Novice Member
This is a tough decision because you face both vertical and horizontal viewing angles. Made even tougher by not knowing for certain which panel type came on the Philips TV you tried. Most 43" models use IPS panels, especially Philips. But they have used VA in the past too. Almost certainly your Samsung F7000 would have been VA.
IPS panel TVs such as the Sony's may look poor and have a lot of light coming through as you look upward to the TV.

VA panels on the other hand should look better looking up, but worse to the side.
What was it that looked bad with the Philips compared your Samsung? Was it poor horizontal viewing angles looking bad like this (see left tv):

Or IPS glow like this:

?

edit* post tidied.
 
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