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VIDEO: Sony A1 OLED 4K TV at CES 2017

Discussion in 'OLED TVs' started by Phil Hinton, Jan 7, 2017.


    1. Steve Withers

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      Simply stunning....and as I only got my xd93 last year I will probably wait another year or two before I get version two of this
       
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      The no speakers has me intrigued as to how these sound. Tv itself looks not to shabby either
       
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      The TV itself is the speaker and fire just at the bottom both sides towards us...the bass via the stand not to disrupt the picture. Quite clever I must say.
      Not applied for 55 inch and I am glad it is as I handle sound separately.
       
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      Thanks for the video Steve. Could you ask Sony what they are doing about the all important issues of just above black: vertical banding and coarse black level gradation?
       
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      I hope this is good, exciting stuff!
       
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      Any comments on off angle color shift performance on any of products using the 2017 lg oled panels?
       
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      I hope it will get Android N this year not and not next year as mentioned at 1:48.

      Sony A1 Dolby Vision OLED TV at CES
       
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      Where did you get that from? As far as I've read all sizes have exactly the same features, included the panel being the "speaker" for higher frequencies.
       
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      Regarding the stand, does this mean the TV is always tilted?
       
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      Le 55 n est pas concerné: the 55 is not concerned by this technology.
      They could be wrong but that's my source
       
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      Ok, we'll have to wait and see then... I hope the source is wrong, although that's also the feature I care less on this TV (hearing it might change my oppinion, who knows!) thanks.
       
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      I want the opposite, I want it out. Picture and only picture :)
      Sound is much better sorted outside via a proper soundbar or a simple hifi connection or av settings :)
       
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      It doesn't really matter too much whether there's speakers or not - all the models have slim bezel and a bass unit in the stand. In the 3D thread there's those that call 3D a gimmick, but this is Sony's - or perhaps something on your new toy is a feature and it's only a gimmick when it gets dropped a few years later...
       
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      Don't like the fact that there isn't a stand that elevates the TV off what ever surface you are placing the TV on. The reflected light that will bounce back up from the bottom will be ridiculous, you can see it in the video. Would be even worse on a reflective surface. Personally I only thing this TV is for wall mounting only. I even think they lit the TV's from above to cast a soft glow around the TV to slightly hide the light from the panel hitting the floor.
       
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      Very interested in this one as I have a very low AV unit so the tilt would suite me as it would stand lower than my display and point up to my viewing position . Because of its minimalist design and my limitations space wise I may even have an opportunity to replace my 55" with the 65" of this.

      Are the dimensions of this out yet ?
       
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      I read/watched the same story at some point over the last few days, was in English though.
      Stated 55" didn't have the same speaker.
       
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      Good hands on at trustedreviews doesn't mention the 55" model, can't find that article anywhere, hopefully not true.
       
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      I think there are a number of minimalists out there that will appreciate the aesthetic of only having a screen with a small bezel and no visible speakers. Especially when fitted flush into a wall. I can see multiple applications for this tech, whereas only one for 3D with glasses.

      I wish the sound from my iPad came from the screen rather than bottom firing speakers.
       
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      I would probably have the tv screen flush with the edge of my glass stand so it would be that little bit closer to my viewing postpition. In that way the glass won't reflect any light onto the tv. Also, I generally have the blinds closed on the window next to the tv and the other window on a bright day! It is the tv/cinema room after all!
       
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      I've recently been thinking about picking up a bargain on the excellent LG E6 as that comes towards end of life. But when you look at something like this Sony it makes the E6 look very much like yesterday's news already.
       
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      I think you misunderstood what I was trying to say. I didn't mean external light bouncing onto the tv, I meant the light produced from the tv would reflect off what ever the tv is placed on. The closer the source of light (tv) to an object the higher the intensity.
       
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      Ah. I see. However, I still hold thst I would have the TV screen at the edge and so no light would reflect of the stand no?
       
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      Look at it like me if you allow me, we are spoiled for choice :)
      Next 4 months going to be exciting !!! Just worried that they take too much time to come for reviews. That's the only big risk
       
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      I agree with you, the outgoing LG E6 has been excellent. Just because something newer and shinier has come alone doesn't make the E6 bad ....
       
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      Yeah of course not, the E6 is an outstanding TV. But with the speakers in screen and all, the Sony is a quantum leap in technology. It is not just another year of TVs with incremental changes on the prior.
       
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      I feel the same way. Looking at tech evolve right at the moment when you are about to buy it (I'm replacing my 10 year old TV this year) is very exciting. I've actually been holding on for so much time now that I don't actually care about the pricing anymore :facepalm: (3K is my budget for a 55").

      I have the feeling that 2016 was the most revolutionary year in the TV industry since flat LCD TV's & plasmas came out in early 2000's:

      1. 4K
      2. HDR
      3. afordability of 55" sets, and big price drops in 65" sets
      4. Input Lag became an issue for the industry (for the manufacturers)
      5. PS4 Pro and Xbox S
      6. Netflix and others offering 4K content to enjoy these TV's.
      7. End of 3D (that's bad, although I'm not into it, I support all the lovers)
      8. Culmination of LCD technology (The Sony ZD9 is probably as good as any LCD will ever be - & - With Panasonic, Sony, Loewe, LG, Philips and chinese brands embracing OLED, and Samsung rebranding their LCD's as Qleds in 2017, it looks no one else will show off any high end LCD anymore)

      This year 2017, the way I see it, is the year when all these new tech acronyms settle down and become "the norm". I am glad that Dolby has managed to get into their DV boat so many companies, as this means that DV is here to stay.

      The E6, C6, and B6 were exceptional TV's, and the E7, C7 and B7 are going to be better, with better near black performance, better uniformity, better processing, better sound, better input lag (21ms. PLEASE SONY DO IT! 21ms. for the A1 is a dream come true, I can't say that enough!!), better color acuracy (technicolor partnership is a smart move), and probably slightly cleaner and nicer designs. The E8, C8, and E8 are going to improve in all these fields for sure, so I see the next 5/8 years with incremental upgrades and improvements on the Oled technology, until something new comes out (hfr, 8K for larger screens...). LCD's will probably stay, specially for smaller size TV's, because there's no need to have a 26" kitchen Oled, and LCD will get even cheaper than today (600 for a 55" 4K TV is "today"), as Oled also gets cheaper and reaches the 1000€ mainstream price in a couple years for a 50 - 55" screen.

      My choice is clear: either the A1, the C7, or the E7. It all comes down to knowing the real performance they have in the reviews to come. I am inclined to the Sony A1, because I come from a Sony TV and I have always loved the Bravia Engines, but I have high respect for LG so I won't take them out of my list so easily.
       
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      According to WhatHifi if you are going to seat the A1 on a stand/bench rather than wall mount, then the stand will need to be able to take the whole of the width due to the way the TV is designed. That makes it much more unlikely for me.
       

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