VIDEO: CES 2015: Dolby Atmos Interview

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    1. Phil Hinton

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      11 Dolby Atmos blu ray discs?
       
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      That many?
       
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      He must know something we don't! ;-)
       
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      They are being very secretive about it, but I can reveal that there'll be no need for ceiling speakers!

      DTS are planning on using speakers concealed within a discrete and non obtrusive headset:

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      If these upward firing speakers really work, it sounds like a very practical way for most of us to enjoy atmos. Have the competitor formats adopted the same option ?

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      No, Auro3D doesn't really use ceiling speakers so wouldn't benefit from upward firing speakers and DTS haven't as yet launched DTS-X. No one knows what speakers DTS-X will require or how they should be placed? Only Atmos and Auro3D are out in the wild and Auro3D only really utilises one ceiling speaker in relation to its voice of god channel. The other speakers fire along the same horizontal plane as the conventional speakers located below them You mount the additional Auro3D speaker on the wall above existing speakers.
       
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      Do you know what, I think i'll stick with my pokey 7.1 arrangement and my "Denon" AVCA11XVA amp. As the guy said "for those who don't want to throw their speakers in the crusher just for Atmos surround" etc, etc. Well he got that bit right, like many here i'm just an average middle income guy and I won't be chucking my present speakers, which took me several years to aquire, "into the crusher". They are as follows....two "KEF" reference 104.2 floorstanders, a "Kef" reference 100 centre, two "Kef" reference side surround "THX" bipole 34DS's, another pair of "Kef" reference rear 70s's and a "Rel" Storm three sub bass unit. Very nice of him to save me several thousand pounds though given the quality of my speakers. :) Because that's what it will cost me if I got rid of this speaker setup.

      On a more serious note, as it were, if front upwards firing "Atmos" speakers do work that well and an add on decoder becomes avaliable for loop through via the amp, maybe there might be possibilities. As it is wifey (fortunately) puts up with the present speaker arrangement without any arguments in our not very big lounge, plus two racks of hi-fi / av equipment. :love:

      But speakers plumbed into the ceiling, hmm even I bulk at that with all the cables trailing up walls and along the ceiling plus all the drilling and screwing (and i'm talking about the "Atmos" speaker placement and not wifey) it's a definate 100% :nono:. Of course if a wireless speaker arrangement becomes avaliable and there is a robust velcro style type fitting, then maybe, just maybe, but only maybe!!! :rolleyes:
       
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      The upward-firing Dolby Atmos speakers work surprisingly well and as long as you have a flat and reflective ceiling they are a genuine alternative to getting out the stepladder and drill!
       
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      Shallow Gravesque?


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      I'm sure they'll work fine in manufacturer staged demonstrations and the 1% of homes who have light fittings, beams, skylights, artex etc absent or removed from their ceilings.

      My prediction is Auro, DTS-X and Atmos will belly flop faster than 3D.
      I don't know of anyone prepared to make a 'second best' investment in up firing speakers, or anyone prepared to drill into their 'perfect ceiling'. And that's before they upgrade their AVR's.

      This a tougher sell than 3D IMO.
       
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      Well I don't know about DTS: X yet but Auro 3D doesn't need overhead speakers, you can get a highly immersive experience with their 9.1 layout that involves additional height speakers above the front left and right and rear left and right speakers. That won't be too intrusive.
       
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      Very interesting indeed. Thanks Steve.


      Expendables 3,Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles
      Step All In
      Transformers Age Of Extinction
      Hercules (Cancelled Atmos at the final hurdle).
      Gravity (Announced)

      I suspect from the indication of 11 Atmos titles we have a few more to look forward to in the near future. Personally, I've found a few DSU mixes to be more immersive than those referred to above. King Kong, Prometheus and Guardians Of The Galaxy in particular have been quite superb.

      I suspect that DTS X will also have quite some backing. Certainly interesting times ahead. Whilst I'm a huge fan of Atmos, I do get the feeling that doubling up the LR with heights at the front and rear with auro will provide a greater sense of depth and dimension to vanilla 7.1

      I don't think I can recall such an exciting time for AV with so much coming up. Suddenly home cinema is expanding enough to allow for quite a few extreme home cinema setups, WAF permitting.
       
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      I have to eat some humble pie and agree with Steve (which pains me a great deal). I doubted the upward firing speakers would be good enough to convince the brain that sound was coming from above, but I was proved wrong in the Atmos demo. The difference between the up firing and ceiling positioned speakers was very small and I think even in blind testing it would fool the majority. It still means adding more speakers, but not as drastic as mounting them on the ceiling!!
       
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      I'm with Phil and Steve on this I have the onkyo skh-410b dolby atmos speakers in a 7.2.4 config with denon 5200w and they really do work and you can hear thing above you
       
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      ^^ That sounds very encouraging indeed. Have to see how it works in a real living room. I have a flat ceiling at a 'normal' height so might be ok. I do have lights in the middle and suspect that removing them to achieve a 'more complete sound immersion effect' would be equally as prohibitive with Mrs MB as adding ceiling speakers !

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      I use the Onkyo Atmos speakers with a artex ceiling with lights hanging down from the ceiling.
      Once you have the correct placement as dolby have said Atmos is very forgiving of the environment it is in.
       
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      For those using Atmos up firing speakers how far away are your front and rears from your seating position?

      Thanks

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