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Discussion in 'General TV Discussions Forum' started by DM 73, Aug 22, 2005.

  1. DM 73

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    hello,
    I'm going to take the plunge in the next few months and buy a hd plasma (42") and next year also buy a PS3,from what i've read the ps3 is going to use 1080p,being new to this what is the difference between 1080p and 1080i :confused:
    I've got a budget of £3000 and was thinking about either the panny pv500 or the pioneer 435xde which both use 1080i i think, or should i wait for the new pioneer,very very :confused: :confused: any advice would be most welcome
    Thanks :)
     
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    1080p is progressive scan, 1080i is interlaced (see here for an explanation). As I understand it though plasmas are not as suitable as LCD for gaming because they can get image burn where LCD do not.
     
  3. scarty16

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    And LCD's aren't as suitable as Plasmas due to image lag
     
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    You're a fair bit behind the LCD times scarty - LCDs don't suffer lag and haven't done so for probably nigh on a year or thereabouts. Current gen panels have that issue licked, for the most part. Still one or two cheap no-name brands using older panels or poor drive electronic design that won'y have it sorted.
     
  5. scarty16

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    not all LCDs are 8ms or less and hence image lag is still a problem, even on Branded models,

    And don't forget that LCDs can't do real blacks.
     
  6. Tony Hoyle

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    8ms? Unless you've got a source displaying at 125 frames per second you don't need that. Anything <20ms is fine.

    I've *never* seen lag on an LCD in the last 3 years, and they all have no problem with black.
     
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    Try watching a Freddie Flintoff 90mph ball or any fast moving sport and you will see lag
     
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    I've been watching plenty of cricket, football and I don't have any problems with lag on my Hitachi lcd at all. The latest generation screens really have pretty much got this problem sorted.

    Blacks are always going to be a problem, but they're certainly no worse than plasma. With appropriate ambient lighting, blacks look completely black. Problems only arise when watching in a totally dark room.
     
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    maybe lag is the wrong word, lets try blurring instead
     
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    Blurring was what I was referring to. None on mine- tennis, football, cricket... everything that should cause problems on LCD is pretty much sorted now. I've seen some appalling quality on screens that were top-of-the-line 18 months ago, but the latest gen screens give excellent quality.

    There's very little quality difference between plasma and LCD, I would say that the only deciding factor between the two technologies is size. If you want <37" go for LCD, if you want >37" go for plasma.
     
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    LCD lag issue is history now as far as I am concerned. Don't see to many people complaining about Qualia lags :) Re LCD not doing blacks, well neither do plasmas! A quick measurement of contrast rations for plasma and LCD really does not show much difference when properly set up, a quick look to some current independent testing, say HCC, will show this. They are competing technologies both with strengths and weaknesses. I don't think there is an outright winner. Long term I think LCD will destroy the plasma market but we may well other technologoes reaching the market by then. My money is on LCOS as has been for years.
     
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    This is the HD TV forum, and the question was about 1080i and 1080p. Not about competing technologies that have their own forums.

    DM 73; did you mean that you wanted to be able to see 1080p on a display and fully resolve it, or just have a display that could accept that input and down-scale it to it's own resolution (say 1024 x 768)?

    Unless you actually want a flat panel display to use as a TV right now, you may want to wait until the source is actually available. At that time, displays will be better and cheaper. Also, you may want to consider a display rather than a TV (with built-in tuner etc) as you will get more potential for better performance, again at less cost.

    Nick
     
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    Cheers nick :smashin: ,i'm mainly after a HD plasma for watching DVD's ,sky and HD sky (when it comes out) but i also intend to use it for playing games on the PS3 and watching Blueray discs on PS3.I was worried if i got one that did not support 1080p i would'nt get the best out of the new playstation.I'm a bit new to the plasma scene so was just after some advice,also i was hopeing to get some opinions on the 2 i was thinking of getting :D
     

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