craig808
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I've already posted this on the Lyngdorf discussion thread but thought I'd put this on here as well in case anyone's thinking of buying a Lyngdorf TDAI 2170 and have never been on the other thread.
The amp arrived yesterday, early afternoon and immediately I can say I'm very happy indeed. Compared to everything else that I have owned the soundstage is huge and the sq is definitely an improvement on the Arcam SA30 which it's replaced. I used the Node2 to stream from Tidal bypassed directly to the TDAI 2170 and use Roon as the controller.
The first thing to do is to run Room Perfect using the supplied mic and stand. This process is an absolute breeze to complete, much easier than Dirac. Once all measurements have been taken you can choose between Focus (your primary listening place), Global (designed to fill the entire room) or Bypass (self-explanatory). Lyngdorf also provides several "voicings" which are well thought out. Although it must be noted, these are preset and can not be altered.
When listening to music, if anything I found the highs to be a bit sharp but am guessing that will be part the Monitor Audios which are bright anyway, paired with the Lyngdorf which is reproducing my music truer ( is that even a word?) and how the artist intended it to be heard. I have messed around with the voicings but personally, for me I found that I got better results using the DSP in Roon. This is not to say that Lyngdorfs voicings are no good, I just feel that I can pinpoint the exact fq's which I want rather than relying on Lyngdorf.
I found the amp to be extremely articulate and dynamic. I love how dynamic it is but also found that is where the issues lie with the brightness. I listened to that many different songs and genres yesterday that I can't think of an exact example, but imagine a breakdown in the song and the guitarist is playing very lightly accompanied by the singer - all sounds very well. Then the band start to pick things up bar by bar - still all sounds very well and the amp lets you feel every note as the music becomes more intense. You get a real sense of emotion in the music - it really is a pleasure. Each pick of a string, even a deep intake of breath by a singer and the mechanism of drum foot pedals can be heard. Then when the band reaches its crescendo the speakers explode into life with a fantastic amount of articulate, detailed sound, but for my ears just a touch too much brightness. Like I say though, I managed to tone it down with the DSP.
Something else that I liked is how it doesn't seem to matter where I am sat in the living room, there is very little change in the sound. With my past systems, I could move a few inches in any direction and I could tell a difference - I found that quite annoying as I had to place a chair in an exact position to enjoy optimal listening. So using the new amp yesterday was an absolute pleasure and a bit of a revelation for me!
I still need to play with the RP a bit more. The amp only arrived yesterday afternoon so I quickly set it up and started listening to as many different genres as I could and working my way around the settings. I could tell a difference between the 3 RP settings; Global, Focus and Bypass but it wasn't as night and day as maybe I was expecting but to be honest I am not sure what I was expecting. And in all honestly, I was that keen to set everything up and start listening I didn't give my self enough time as the process probably warrants. I also forgot to place the speakers against the front wall as recommended by Lyngdorf. So when the wife and kids are next out I will go through the set-up again and spend much more time. I was very impressed with the set up of RP compared with Dirac - it was such a simple operation.
As I have already mentioned in another post, I wish the volume would go higher than +12db. Don't get me wrong, at that level it is definitely loud, very loud. But occasionally I would like to go higher. With all of the setups I have owned in the past, I can only get the volume to approximately 50% then it is just ridiculously loud. Yesterday I found my self on a few occasions wanting to increase the volume. Anyway, it seems that it is what it is and there's nothing that I can do about that.
Edit: today I've been informed that this can be increased to 24db but as yet I've not had chances to try.
When speaking to the retailer he asked if I need any of the various add ons that can be purchased and it was decided that because I primarily listen to music and don't bother with films that we would not bother including any of them.
For the very small amount of films that we watch it was decided that simply connecting the amp to the tv with an optical cable would be enough for what I need.
So last night we decided to put Transformers on, this is not something that we would ever choose to watch but thought that it would be good for demo purposes.
For a family that claims to have zero interested in films and couldn't care less how they sound we were all blown away. It was actually quite comical.
We turned the sub on to movie setting and cranked the volume on the amp and all 4 of us were sat on the edge of our seats open-mouthed unanimously saying "wow".
Now don't get me wrong, I appreciate that many of you will have far superior movie setups, but for us it was an absolute revelation which we thoroughly enjoyed. The depth of sound and the bass was immense. Being such an articulate and dynamic amp, the fight scenes blew our minds.
So it turns out that we do like films after all - the power of Lyngdorf eh!!
I would also like to mention where I bought it from.
After seeing his name on here, I contacted Richard @Seriously Ltd who I can't recommend enough. I had previously spoken to another company but wasn't filled with confidence as they were not able to offer the advice that I required and I even told them some facts about the Lyngdorf and the Arcam because he didn't know them. Richard has always been at the other end of the phone and clearly has a passion for HiFi which is evident in the conversations that we have had. He also sorted me out a very good deal on the Lyngdord so all in all I am a very happy man and would recommend giving him a call.
The TDAI 2170 has proved to be every bit as good as people say it is and imo it lives up to the hype.
I can honestly say that my hunt for amps has now finished...on to the speakers next!!!
The amp arrived yesterday, early afternoon and immediately I can say I'm very happy indeed. Compared to everything else that I have owned the soundstage is huge and the sq is definitely an improvement on the Arcam SA30 which it's replaced. I used the Node2 to stream from Tidal bypassed directly to the TDAI 2170 and use Roon as the controller.
The first thing to do is to run Room Perfect using the supplied mic and stand. This process is an absolute breeze to complete, much easier than Dirac. Once all measurements have been taken you can choose between Focus (your primary listening place), Global (designed to fill the entire room) or Bypass (self-explanatory). Lyngdorf also provides several "voicings" which are well thought out. Although it must be noted, these are preset and can not be altered.
When listening to music, if anything I found the highs to be a bit sharp but am guessing that will be part the Monitor Audios which are bright anyway, paired with the Lyngdorf which is reproducing my music truer ( is that even a word?) and how the artist intended it to be heard. I have messed around with the voicings but personally, for me I found that I got better results using the DSP in Roon. This is not to say that Lyngdorfs voicings are no good, I just feel that I can pinpoint the exact fq's which I want rather than relying on Lyngdorf.
I found the amp to be extremely articulate and dynamic. I love how dynamic it is but also found that is where the issues lie with the brightness. I listened to that many different songs and genres yesterday that I can't think of an exact example, but imagine a breakdown in the song and the guitarist is playing very lightly accompanied by the singer - all sounds very well. Then the band start to pick things up bar by bar - still all sounds very well and the amp lets you feel every note as the music becomes more intense. You get a real sense of emotion in the music - it really is a pleasure. Each pick of a string, even a deep intake of breath by a singer and the mechanism of drum foot pedals can be heard. Then when the band reaches its crescendo the speakers explode into life with a fantastic amount of articulate, detailed sound, but for my ears just a touch too much brightness. Like I say though, I managed to tone it down with the DSP.
Something else that I liked is how it doesn't seem to matter where I am sat in the living room, there is very little change in the sound. With my past systems, I could move a few inches in any direction and I could tell a difference - I found that quite annoying as I had to place a chair in an exact position to enjoy optimal listening. So using the new amp yesterday was an absolute pleasure and a bit of a revelation for me!
I still need to play with the RP a bit more. The amp only arrived yesterday afternoon so I quickly set it up and started listening to as many different genres as I could and working my way around the settings. I could tell a difference between the 3 RP settings; Global, Focus and Bypass but it wasn't as night and day as maybe I was expecting but to be honest I am not sure what I was expecting. And in all honestly, I was that keen to set everything up and start listening I didn't give my self enough time as the process probably warrants. I also forgot to place the speakers against the front wall as recommended by Lyngdorf. So when the wife and kids are next out I will go through the set-up again and spend much more time. I was very impressed with the set up of RP compared with Dirac - it was such a simple operation.
As I have already mentioned in another post, I wish the volume would go higher than +12db. Don't get me wrong, at that level it is definitely loud, very loud. But occasionally I would like to go higher. With all of the setups I have owned in the past, I can only get the volume to approximately 50% then it is just ridiculously loud. Yesterday I found my self on a few occasions wanting to increase the volume. Anyway, it seems that it is what it is and there's nothing that I can do about that.
Edit: today I've been informed that this can be increased to 24db but as yet I've not had chances to try.
When speaking to the retailer he asked if I need any of the various add ons that can be purchased and it was decided that because I primarily listen to music and don't bother with films that we would not bother including any of them.
For the very small amount of films that we watch it was decided that simply connecting the amp to the tv with an optical cable would be enough for what I need.
So last night we decided to put Transformers on, this is not something that we would ever choose to watch but thought that it would be good for demo purposes.
For a family that claims to have zero interested in films and couldn't care less how they sound we were all blown away. It was actually quite comical.
We turned the sub on to movie setting and cranked the volume on the amp and all 4 of us were sat on the edge of our seats open-mouthed unanimously saying "wow".
Now don't get me wrong, I appreciate that many of you will have far superior movie setups, but for us it was an absolute revelation which we thoroughly enjoyed. The depth of sound and the bass was immense. Being such an articulate and dynamic amp, the fight scenes blew our minds.
So it turns out that we do like films after all - the power of Lyngdorf eh!!
I would also like to mention where I bought it from.
After seeing his name on here, I contacted Richard @Seriously Ltd who I can't recommend enough. I had previously spoken to another company but wasn't filled with confidence as they were not able to offer the advice that I required and I even told them some facts about the Lyngdorf and the Arcam because he didn't know them. Richard has always been at the other end of the phone and clearly has a passion for HiFi which is evident in the conversations that we have had. He also sorted me out a very good deal on the Lyngdord so all in all I am a very happy man and would recommend giving him a call.
The TDAI 2170 has proved to be every bit as good as people say it is and imo it lives up to the hype.
I can honestly say that my hunt for amps has now finished...on to the speakers next!!!
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Do please share any further details Rob!
