eviljohn2
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I respect your right not to eat meat but I find this just insulting.John Martucci said:I have absolutely no problem with all you meat eaters....After all your just unelightened.
I respect your right not to eat meat but I find this just insulting.John Martucci said:I have absolutely no problem with all you meat eaters....After all your just unelightened.
Diet has nothing to do with breeding programmes. Diet can be used to improve meat quality, but not change an animals structure!Part of breeding being a diet that improves the quality of the meat
The majority of livestock farmers have been censured by my old employers, at some point in time, for poor or even abusive husbandry, and a few (far too many) for being involved in selling animals known to be sick (due to abuse) to abbatoirs on the sly. Hence, as I said elsewhere, its worth asking your butcher exactly where he gets his meat. A good butcher will have no hesitation in telling you.On some farms you are correct. I've seen many like the type I describe. I live in the sticks.
Not all farmers are bad news, and some are actively good news. Sadly, from working with them for years the bad ones outnumbered the good - and not just in livestock holdings.My Uncle works on a beef cattle farm (they raise the calves) and the welfare is paramount.
Sad, very sad.I have absolutely no problem with all you meat eaters....After all your just unelightened.
John Martucci said:Chew on this
John Martucci said:If you practice what you believe in, there is no need to preach what you practice. The intelligent ones will discover and learn from you no matter how quiet you are.
Vegan and proud.
Tons of fun said:her decision was made on the basis of health rather than ethics basis.
John Martucci said:If you practice what you believe in, there is no need to preach what you practice.
Why is that important tons? She has the right to make her decision based on whatever she likes. Surely? Ethics (no, not you EG! ) can play a part in many decisions - like not using certain banks who fund dictators. Yet other people could condemn that as daft.Importantly however, her decision was made on the basis of health rather than ethics basis.
overkill said:Why is that important tons? She has the right to make her decision based on whatever she likes. Surely? Ethics (no, not you EG! ) can play a part in many decisions - like not using certain banks who fund dictators. Yet other people could condemn that as daft.
You've obviously been mixing with the wrong crowd. I didn't even realise that three of my friends were vegetarians until I reached that "dinner party" age (30+). All of whom did so for ethical reasons.I have never met anyone who changed for ethical reasons who could resist having a pop at a meat eater
Fair enough.So important in a relationship sense for me
overkill said:You've obviously been mixing with the wrong crowd. I didn't even realise that three of my friends were vegetarians until I reached that "dinner party" age (30+). All of whom did so for ethical reasons.
Fair enough.
Since my wife's a vegetarian I doubt they'd be too worried about it..........Being your freinds they probably know you well enough ...... and therefore thought better of starting world war III
Mine definately know better with me
seany said:How did a veggie thread get to 8 pages
Takes rose tinted glasses off