Discussion in 'Movie Forum' started by Simon6776, Jul 26, 2004.
Anyone getting this? More to the point, is anyone getting the 3 disc 'Ultimate Collector's Edition'?
I think this one will be in the bargain bins quite quickly, so I'll get interested when its about £5.
Is it that bad?
Depends what you want out of it. If you want a story and some characterisation look else where. If you want 2 hours of none stop action then van helsing is for you. The visual effects are very impressive for the most part and there is some really good set pieces in there but there isn`t really any flow to the film and the dialogue is pretty weak for the most part aswell. Think i`ll give it a purchase still as there are some set pieces i liked in it especially the dr jekyl bit at the beginning.
Make that 2 hours of yawn-inducing, overdone, totally uninvolving, way too far-fetched even by action movie standards and non-contextualized, non-stop action.
Three discs? What on earth does the world need with this?
Yes, it really is that bad! One of the worst movies ever made, without doubt, and a textbook example of everything that is wrong with popular cinema to boot.
c mon guys how many of you bought id cos of the sound and special effects me thinks this will be a reference quality disc = ****e film awesome pic and sound (will sell millions)
I had expectations that were about as low as they could be, and I thought it was OK for one of those films where you're required to take your brain out and give it a forceful boot across the room.
I haven't seen Van Helsing, except the odd trailer or two. I did look quite good, but then the always show the best bits.
But can it really be as bad as Lord of the rings?
Now that film was yawn inducing, nay death inducing. I don't think there was a single good actor in it. The guy who plays Frodo, couldn't act his way out of a paper bag.
I haven't seen the other 2 films, I don't think I have sinned enough to suffer them.
Lots of people loved LOTR, but I couldn't see the attraction.
Well, if anyone is interested, you can get a two disc version of VH from EzyDVD for just over £12. The only other versions I have seen are a single disc and the triple, which seems well overpriced, at double the price of the single. I have to say, I'm still tempted, because it's bound to be reference quality picture and sound.
Now, where's thst DVDaholics Anonymous thread? I think I need help...!
Oh, here's the link: http://www.ezydvd.com.au/item.zml/227337
I loved it to bits.
Non stop action, total fantasy and just great sound.
Beats Bored of the Rings anytime.
Being a Universal release would we get a DD EX & DTS ES release?
This really is the most boring film of the year so far...I'd go further, its the worst film that I have seen in a goodly long while.
Do not go see this in the cinema
Do not buy it on DvD.
Oh, unless you want a laugh seeing Kate Beckinsale trying to run in those trousers...and trying to do a decent Romanian accent.
Watched "The Devil and Daniel Webster" last night. Sixty-odd years old, black and white, mono sound, and 4:3 ratio. A hundred times, nay a thousand times the movie that mindless dross like Van Helsing could ever hope to be.
This is how you make a truly great fantasy movie. Great script, stunning cinematography (no CGI), superb actors, and a director with the creativity and imagination to pull it all together. More imagination and artistry in a single frame than Sommers' sorry mess manages in two hours. Why spend your money on a turd like "Van Helsing" when there are movies like this out there?
There are plenty of good movies out there with reference quality picture and sound. Have you bought all of those yet? And for gawd's sake, just how many times do you need to "reference" your system. Surely the time could be spent actually watching a good movie.
Think these forums are pretty well split into two camps, those that love movies, and those that love CRASHBOOMBANG.
For the latter group, what the hell does it matter what you buy? Any old s***e will do, so long as you get your audio-visual stiffy...
A fiver is just about right for three silver drinks coasters!
I think it's Independence Day...
As for the second statement, I'm firmly in category 1 here, and though I sometimes find it hard to understand what Thepauley is going on about with his degree in English language , I think we're both on the same wavelength when it comes to movies...I for one will be giving Van Helsing the widest possible berth.
However, I do own ID4, but that was from the days when popcorn movies were half decent...
Those of you who say it's a bad film obviously haven't seen Timeline, that has to be the worst ever!
Probably most of them, yes.
I like to think I'm split between the two. Sometimes I'll switch a movie off after 10 minutes, simply because it's all 'CRASHBANGBOOM'', the first example which springs to mind being xXx. I have a very mixed collection of DVDs, and don't always buy them for sound and pic quality alone.
I have to admit, I'm starting to reconsider buying Van Helsing, purely because of the strength of feeling on here, but has everyone who is slagging this film actually seen it, or is there a lot of 'following the crowd' going on here?
Degree in english language? You must be refering to my earlier review of "Van H.":
Agree with what you say about "ID4". There is a world of difference between a piece of good dumb fun represented by that movie, and the devolving of the action movie genre into an utterly mindless display of CGI as represented by "Van Helsing".
As someone else pointed out on a previous thread discussing this film, one day, some producer will probably have the brass balls to turn out one of these movies with no dialogue and no plot. Just two hours of CGI scrapping.
The sad thing is there will be people queueing up to buy the triple-DVD release and to tell us how much better than "Lord of the Rings" it was...
YEAH! (in the voice of the big dude in Trading Places)
Oh yes! Some of us have actually seen it... £5 down the bog and two hours of my life I'll never get back. That bad...
You should search for the earlier thread a few months back when the movie was originally released. Hoepfully that will scare you out of wasting your hard earned...
I did just than, and (hoping valhalla doesn't mind me dragging him into this), found that not everyone thought it was pants!
I thought it was OK, not worthy of the gargantuan slagging its been getting but far from perfect. It entertained me for a couple of hours... it isn't a "quality" film but I'm not always in the mood for something cerebral, VH is perfect for the days I want to watch some vacuous pap.
it bastardizes the legends of Dracula, Frankenstein's monster, Jeckyll & Hyde, Wolfman etc, but it's it's non stop action. And Kate Beckinsale looked hot.. that about fills my criteria for watching a movie anyway.. would hope there's a DC on the triple disc version, there were some bits which needed expanding. and some characters who needed getting naked...
and thats turning up in the bargain section already - but this was a 'written for film book' if you've ever tried to read it. But my vote would go to the new Thunderbirds movie as the quickest from Screen to Bargain Bin.
Well I may get a copy of VH, but only when its cheap enough and I've just broken my £10 max limit for the second time because I couldn't get Stalker (the Russian film) that cheap after a year of trying (please don't tell me if you know it can be bought for under £14). There is a whole host of these 'brain out' films and yes I have enjoyed many - just wouldn't pay very much for them.
PS I don't included Stalker in the brain out category - just saying I won't pay much for a true classic, so these other movies have to be almost available for loose change before I'd buy.
Just picked up Stalker here for £4.99.
Only kidding mate!
Great movie though.
Personally I love both, though I draw the line at stuff like Van Crapsing.
If you have seen League Of Extraordinary Gentlemen and you liked that then you should be okay with Val Helsing,if you thought LOEG was pants then do yourself a favour and give VH a miss.
What do you expect from Stephen Sommers, he also directed The Mummy and The Mummy Returns. Not to mention Deep Rising, all pants!!
I loved every film you mentioned.
Not pants in any way but only judged in a personal way!
What's one mans "pants" is another mans Gold.
Non stop action!
And he delivers.
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