Valerian and the City of a Thousand Planets Ultra HD Blu-ray Review & Comments

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    1. Casimir Harlow

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      Agree with your review Cas. It is one of the best visual & audio UHD's so far. The film itself, not so ! The script as you say.....:(
       
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      wasnt sure what to expect after all the bad reviews, visually stunning in OLED 3D and a pretty decent movie, I agree the humour was lacking a little but well worth a 7.
       
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      Thanks for the review Cas,but must admit i quite enjoyed it :)
       
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      I thought Cara Delevingne was pretty decent as a lead but yeah, DeHaan was awful.

      The film is absolutely beautiful to look at though.
       
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      Well I spose now you can polish a turd ;) . Think I'll stick with Fifth Element as one watch of Valerian was enough for me at the cinema .
       
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      Recently watched this but only the bluray.

      What a complete and utter mess of a film. Both myself and my wife looked at each other and both agreed we had just wasted over 2 hours of our lives. Now the script was awful, but Dehaan and Delevingne were absolutely shocking. Zero chemistry between them and they read their lines like an IT technician explaining how to fix a printer issue.

      Given the amazing settings they brought to screen, and then ruining it past the point that even a directors cut couldn't solve the inadequacies, its a 3/10. Honestly this was garbage.
       
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      I loved the movie. Watched the 4K monday, 3D viewing scheduled for this weekend.

      If I want dialogue I can watch Romeo and Juliet, Macbeth or King Lear etc
      But none of them have the sheer visual spectacle this movie provides.
      Most dialogue in sci-fi, space opera and super hero movies is risible but that's not what we watch them for...
      50 Quotes From The Star Wars Prequels, Ranked In Order Of Terribleness

      And as to the review jibes at Besson of being a '12-year-old-boy-in-a-grown-man's-body filmmaker' perhaps it should be taken as a compliment that he can take and channel his childhood memories of the comic series in this way, presenting on screen what was in print.
       
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      You realise that link was for dialogue from the Star Wars prequels? :laugh:

      Honestly dialogue can be bad but this was another level. Especially from the guy who did Leon, Nikita and especially, impressive sci-fi action comedy fantasy (everything this wanted to be) in Fifth Element. There’s really no excuse or reason other than the fact he’s degenerated into a terrible, childish writer.
       
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      Many thanks for confirming what I knew to be true Cas!

      Just hearing Cara shout out "VALERIAN" after being told on the radio how epic it was completely put me off going to the cinema! I just knew it was going to be Besson's biggest turkey!

      Maybe it is his festive gift to us :laugh:

      Will be waiting for this to be cheaper than chips :smashin:
       
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      Yes and deliberately so.
      And no better example of wooden acting. I think Hayden Christensen wins in that score over Dane DeHaan. As for the dialogue in the prequels, I find it no better or worse than that in Valerian. Or does George Lucas have a get of jail free card in that regard... :)
       
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      No he doesn't. The dialogue in the prequels got much the same flak. And my point was it's not exactly saying much if you're arguing that Valerian is as good as the Star Wars prequels in terms of dialogue. Surely we can have higher standards than that?

      And even if Christensen was more wooden than DeHaan that too isn't much of a statement when DeHaan has proven himself a competent actor (Place Beyond the Pines, Chronicle) whereas Christensen was an unknown entity. Surely it's all the more tragic that a script / direction from Besson can bring down people who can actually act? (I'm not even going to start on Clive Owen's abysmal villain - he must have really needed the money).
       
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      I'm saying it's no worse than the dialogue in Star Wars and most other movies of that genre.
      I don't watch them for the dialogue but for the visuals and story. And for that Valerian does rather well.
      Equally Natalie Portman where a script/direction from Lucas did the same.
      Natalie Portman blames Star Wars for nearly ruining her career: 'Everyone thought I was a horrible actress' Natalie Portman has a vendetta against those terrible Star Wars prequels

      Edit: From reviews (some) Cara Delinvinge comes out slightly better with the response to her acting in Valerian than Natalie Portman did in the prequels. At least Cara is coming from nothing while Portman can thank Besson for kickstarting her career (and Lucas for nearly killing it).
       
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      I really enjoyed this movie, went in without any expectations and I was pleasantly surprised.
      It's a 7/10 from me. That 5 is way off ;)
       
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      No, the story is awful. There's a vaguely good framework in there, but it falls apart because it takes so many damn detours along the way (including one for a random Rhianna dance).

      Yes the visuals are excellent, but surely you can marry those to a better story?

      And yes, Portman's acting was terrible, and she clearly can act. You're right, Lucas, is as bad at dialogue and direction as Besson. You win. Somehow it feels a little like a bit of a Pyrrhic victory though.
       
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      Edit:
      That is something which has eluded many a movie or franchise of this genre.
      Transformers, Star Wars, the two recent Ridley Scott Aliens, many Marvell's, etc etc
      It seems there may be an immutable law of the universe that the better the movie visuals, the worse the story gets... ;)

      To paraphrase: I love the smell of Pyrrhic in the morning, it smells like victory... :)
       
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      Well,at least it was not another superhero or SW milk-it-job.A breath of fresh air,the bad dialogue was almost charming.The review is generally spot-on,the movie is a fun diversion and while it could be much better it is not as bad as John Carter and ahem,a certain DC comics ensemble movie,cough-cough...
       
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      People waste to much time analysing and not enjoying...films are for watching ..not writing about....loved every minute and it achieved what I hoped it would.... a nice comfy feeling on a cold dark night... :)
       
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      I'm looking forward to the entended cut of Valerian where Cara Delingvine watches a TV and does nothing for half an hour except raise and lower her eyebrows.
      I think it's her screen test for the movie :)
      Luc Besson: Can you raise them a bit more? What about lowering them a bit more? Perfect, you've got the part

      After her performance in Suicide Squad I was expecting to have to grit my teeth to get through any scenes with her in it, but was pleasantly surprised. I think this movie is more enjoyable if you read all the bad reviews, don't expect too much, and it thus comes out the better for it.

      But then I enjoyed John Carter so what do I know... ;)

      Trivia: Valerian features 2,355 visual effects shots, some 600 more than Rogue One and the taxi from Fifth Element makes a brief appearance.
      'Valerian' Features 2,355 Visual Effects Shots, 600 More Than 'Rogue One'
       
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      Wow that means it must be way better than Rogue One! [emoji6]
       
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      No, it means that's why it didn't have a 4K DI...
       
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      Quite frankly there was nothing of substance to analyse in the first place . Im surprised the reviewer actually found anything of substance to write a review in the first place .Films are not just for watching , unless of course you have liked any thing and everything you have ever watched ? ( unlikely ). Films first and foremost are about the engagement the viewer no matter what the genre or medium. A couple of hours of bright eye candy does not make a good film . Tis an entertaining car crash though .
       
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      You know you're not alone, I like it as well, would have liked it to have been a bigger hit and a follow on.
      I think Ill have to watch this before a blind buy I bought Jupiter Ascending because the 4K was going cheap but thought it was aimed at teens.
       
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      So you also enjoyed Transformers The Last Knight if pretty CGI is all that's required :p :D

      I must admit the first Transformers is still my not so guilty pleasure. Switch your brain off and enjoy the CGI. Acting/script etc were good enough and didn't ruin my experience.

      Valerian just relied solely on CGI with no effort given to direction/script/casting and any time the two leads talked it was jarring and completely pulled me out of any immersion into what was an incredibly realised world thus ruining the film (for me).
       
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      Despite of the critics i quite enjoyed this movie. It was "cheeky" and i loved Cara in it. :)
      Obviously it's a big mixture bag of the most popular sci-fi movies - was a little bit like "Pirates of Caribbean in the space" - , but i didn't expect a Blade Runner kind of seriousness.

      The Guardians of Galaxy (especially the 2nd) is still a better movie in this category, but if you want to turn off your mind for 2+ hours it's worth to watch. Also audio-visually it's a feast! :)
       
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      This film broke my heart! I so wanted to enjoy it but theres just too much pointless stuff in the film to the point that it damages it.

      Maybe if the story would have held out over a couple of movies these nice visual imaginative parts wouldn't have seemed like they were crammed in wherever they could put them. But as it stands its just a mess. I'd love to see a re-edit as I think there's a great movie in there.
       
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      About 90% of my films are SciFi, don't watch much else really, was really looking forward to watching this when it was released having never read any reviews, BUT, I wasted about an hour of my night, just couldn't bear to watch any more, the film had nothing going for it at all except the superb CGI effects and soundtrack, alas, that doesn't make a good film, you need more than fancy graphics and sound to get me to watch until the end.
       
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      I actually really liked it. Thought it would be dreadful after reading the reviews but it has a really nice "graphic comic on screen" feel to it. I've never read the book so no idea if this actually flows through in real life but it did give me the same sort of feeling like I was reading a graphic novel when watching it. I liked the leads both of whom were quite different and hard as nails. Initially perturbed by how young they were compared to everyone else in the film but then that is classic graphic novel fodder. I see the film as one of those comics on screen and the scene's trying to match that feeling and in those terms it works.

      If you are expecting a marvel film you will be disappointed as this is not like that at all despite all the visual glamour. This is exactly like a comic going from event to event and giving a visual feat for the viewer, it isn't really made to be a saga and neither does it suggest an inevitable squeal.
       
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      And a complete lack of stupid scientists and spaceship crew doing really stupid things in it...
      Score Luc Besson: 0 , Ridley Scott: -2
       
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      Six hundred better , we going Battleship crazy here , script , story , characters, narrative , chemistry. Pah it be pretty ,very pretty extremely pretty to watch . C'mon Luc make a film once again an not a pretty pointless picture .
       
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